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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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I would love to see a dirtbike beat a full bore drag banshee. No way that can ever happen. It's physically impossible. There isn't enough contact patch in the sand.
Oh please, show the least bit of intelligence with this. There is very few quads out there that is going to run with or beat a 250cc class dirt that is even relatively stock. Im sure someone can make a dirtbike into a drag machine to compete with a full on Bansee. Power to weight ratio, that's enough said and any normal person would understand that.
Well of course there are very few quads but none the less not only are they running with but are beating them in many cases. Besides power to weight ration is nothing without traction. Which is the same reason why I could beat a co-riders of mine 210 hp Hyubusa with my older moded zx9. He did nothing but sit and spin the back wheels. In the dirt its even worse. ATV's have wider contact patches and two at that in the rear. ITs not always about hp#'s nor power to weight ratio, its about getting to the ground.




I ride both, and have much more experience on ATV's, since I was 5 actually, and I must tell you that a ATV will not go places a dirtbike will. 2 wheels is simply more nimble, it's not rocket science. A dirtbike will always be able to go faster in about all situations except for maybe deep mud and snow covered terrains. If you are having to wait up on a dirtbike it is because of the rider, he is either unexperienced or he just plain sux. I see you live in Indiana, you ever ride at Haspin Acres? If you would want to meet up sometime and if you can keep up AND go the places I do on my CR250, I'll give you my bike. A quad just can't go certain places do to it's size.
Of course Quads can not go between narrow trees but thats not the point nor was it ever mine.


If you want to get a thread going on why you enjoy ATV's more, hey, that is great. But at least don't waste your time rambling off false info about how ATV's are faster, more advanced, and what not than dirtbikes. ATV's get their technology FROM dirtbikes. And not just the motors, but the basic concepts for frames, rear suspension, and lighter components on dirtbikes are applied to ATV's.
Actually I would now argue that ATV's are getting their technology from superbikes and no longer dirt bikes which have not really utilized newer technology lately. The newer frames on ATV's and now fuel injection are borrowed from the proven superbike industry and deffinately not from dirt bikes.



Im not saying ATV's doesn't outsell dirtbikes, but a lot of this is because they "appear" to be safe and they are easier to go fast on. That is what makes them so dangerous, people doesn't realize it takes experience and skill to operate these machines at speed. And that is why you see dirtbike riders bash ATV riders, because the riders are morons not the machine. A lot of ATVers go hog wild, whipping donuts in the parking lot making dust, and hardly none of them know proper track edicate which is dangerous. So it is certain ATV riders that give ATV's the bad name, not the ATV's themselves.
There are morons on both ATVs and dirt bikes. If there are more morons on ATVs than dirt bikes then how come dirt bike guys are the ones ending up in Ambulances more often? Carry this a step further what about the super bike Joe crotch rocket wanna-bes?


And besides, we need to be working with each other agaisnt the EPA people. Not trying to seperate the two and making us weaker as a whole.
This post was from my point of view... and of course I agree we should all work together. Let me remind you that I am 31 and like of many others have been riding both dirt bikes, ATV's or super bikes since I was 6.

 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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I'm thinking more like, don't bite your nails.
A man speaking from exerience.. And if 2 have done this how many more have. I think we need to propose a rule set for wiping your *** to prevent further injuries from occuring.
I propose, from this day on, we all drag our butts across the carpet instead of wiping. It seems to work for our dog.

Dirt bikers are sissies? Go to your next MC race and look at those guys. Then go to ATV race and see how many guys are out of shape there. Not talking pro's either. Just everyday guys. Better yet, go ride a dirtbike for a weekend and see if you don't feel how out of shape sitting on four wheels has made you.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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There are morons on both ATVs and dirt bikes. If there are more morons on ATVs than dirt bikes then how come dirt bike guys are the ones ending up in Ambulances more often? Carry this a step further what about the super bike Joe crotch rocket wanna-bes?
Wow.. CPSC seems to think there are more morons on ATVs.. If you have evidence that disputes this would you please inform them [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Well its kind of true they are sissies... jk...
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Sounds like cctman has got his @$$ handed to him a couple times by a good old dirtbike, and is a hater......LOL....J/k man!
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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I think we are getting away from the point here.

The point is that dirt bikers are a bunch of sissies! (generally)
I thought it was that some quad riders have no skill at all.

I respect the skill of the biker. They are just sissies.

 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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I think we are getting away from the point here.

The point is that dirt bikers are a bunch of sissies! (generally)
I thought it was that some quad riders have no skill at all.

I respect the skill of the biker. They are just sissies.
LOL!
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by: ThrashAndCrashUntilItsTrash
Sounds like cctman has got his @$$ handed to him a couple times by a good old dirtbike, and is a hater......LOL....J/k man!
Haven't seen a lot of dirt bikers lately... Last time we were around a few it was a group that was out in Waynoka in the sand dunes. All they did was sit on the top of dune debating whether or not they could make it back up I guess. .... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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How come you never hear about someone wanting to take a motor out of a quad, and put it in a bike?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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When I said dirtbikes will go more places, I didn't mean between trees. I like how you dodge points and don't answer them straight forward. And where is those fantasy lap times?


And quads do get there DETUNED technology from dirtbikes, and dirtbikes get some of their technology from superbikes like Aluminum frames and engines, which superbikes get their engine technology from F1 cars. The point is, ATV's are on the bottom of the chain. You really have not made one solide point.

And actually the records show more ATV deaths and injuries than dirtbikes, again you have no valid points, do your research before debating.

Being 31 I would expect you to be more accurate with you arguments, everything you have said is simply made up. The only thing that you can really have an opinion on about any of this is that you feel ATV's are more fun.
 
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