Turbo33,
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If mine is currently clogged my new motor is doomed!

I currently have the right side case off and new Yamaha fibers ready to install and bolt back up.

If the oil goes through the external resevoir and past the screen into the case I sould be ok?? Right? Help? Somebody?

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Blue,
I would say, see what you can do to get to the strainer, if possible. I would definately recommend you run a few oil changes through her too, allowing to help flush all that crap out of your motor.

Sorry I don't have anything better to offer. I'm really suprised nobody had ever said anything about not using the Barnett fibers before.

 

Hi Swytak,
thanks for the encouragement. I hope my new 686 is not toast. I will take your advice and do multiple oil/filter changes with low viscosity oil to flush things out. How could Barnett knowingly F us over like this. I am sure turbo33 and I are not the first ones to have a cow.

I am compiling a file regarding this issue.

 

I sent an e-mail to Barnett with a link to this thread and requested some feedback.
Here is the response I received...


Subject: RE:
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:05:42 -0700
From: "Barnett Information" <info@barnettclutches.com>
To: "Jiggle Racing" <jiggle_racing@yahoo.com>


I response to your concern regarding our product, the comment that
states that our clutch plates cause premature damage in a four stroke
engine is completely INCORRECT. We have been using the Kevlar friction
material since we first introduced it in 1991 and Kevlar has since
become the industry standard. We now offer Kevlar friction plates and
Carbon Fiber friction plates for most motorcycles and ATV's. These
materials have been tested in all forms of racing- off-road, MX, Drag,
Roadrace, etc. Not only have they been tested by racers in all forms of
motorcycle racing, but we use them in all of our own personal bikes and
race bikes. We personally own motorcycles from Yamaha, Honda, Harley
Davidson, Triumph, and Ducati. Two strokes and four strokes- off road
and on road. We would not be in our 54th year of making motorcycle
clutches if we produced a product that damaged your engine.
A little more about clutches and oil. First of all, ANY clutch
is going to contaminate the oil to some extent. That goes for stock
plates or aftermarket plates. Clutch plates will wear out eventually.
The material that wears has to go somewhere. This is why they put oil
filters on four stroke motors! Another thing that causes oil
contamination is using aluminum metal drive plates. Some OEM off-road
clutch assemblies use these aluminum plates. We sell steel drive plates
with our clutch kits that will not contaminate the oil like the
aluminum
will. For those who wish to use aluminum drive plates, we offer our
Cryogenically treated aluminum drive plates that will not contaminate
the oil like untreated aluminum plates.
Not only have we done extensive testing with the Kevlar and Carbon
Fiber
friction materials, we have tested them with many different type of
oils- both synthetic and petroleum based. Our friction materials can be
used with any type of oil. We personally use motorcycle specific
synthetic oils in our off-road bikes and roadrace bikes. We also
recommend using motorcycle/ATV specific oils as opposed to automotive
type oils. The motorcycle/ATV specific oils from companies such as
Motul, Maxima, etc., are designed to meet the demands of today's high
performance engines.
Again, to put it simply, using our clutch plates will NOT cause damage
to your engine. The internet can be a great place for people to share
ideas and info. However, you must take the advice you get with a grain
of salt. What makes a particular person an expert in the area that
he/she is commenting on? Anyone, anywhere can go on the internet and
post his or her opinion. We all have a right to express our opinion.
However, don't jump to conclusions just because one or two people say
not to use a certain product. Research the product and come to your own
conclusion. We here at Barnett have always stood behind our products
100% and we will continue to do so. If you have a specific question or
concern, don't hesitate to pick the phone and call us.

Sincerely,
Chris Taylor
Barnett Tool & Eng.
805-642-9435

 

Well, Barnett is right, we all have the right to voice our opinion. I know what my opinion is and I shared it with you folks. Yes, they have been in business for over 50 years and I haven't, but I will not use a barnett in my Rap motor! End of story.....