Hey Bill
Just wondering how you like the cat compared to your 450es?
matty

 

I really bought the Cat for my wife...(!!)...
She wanted an auto...and I wanted a plow..The Cat's extra ground clearence along with the $69 winch deal made the Cat the plow machine.I've only spent about 2 hrs Sun. plowing so my preferences aren't formed yet.
I did notice the Cat seeems cold blooded and harder to start ...could be me??
I liked the shifting to reverse much better on the Cat and allowed me to operate the winch with my left hand.
Power and traction "felt" better ....side by side test in snow to come later!!!

 

I was just curious to see, if you thought what I thought. My nieghbor bought the 450s when I bought my AC manuel. The things I found cat better suspension by far, cat more power, front diff seemed to work better on cat and on top of that i got my cat for over a thousand cheaper then what he paid. The nice things about the 450s was it steered alot easier, and shifted better(more smooth). Your wifes should steer alot better then mine since she has the selectable 2 or 4 wheel drive. These are my observation. Like to see what you think.
matty
PS Both seem to be built like sherman tanks

 

Hey Bill450ES, take your Cat and put it in low range 4x4 and hook up to your 450 (hitch to hitch) and see who wins. Im just wondering.
Thanks
01' 400
Soon to buy a 01' 500

 

I don't think that even with his wife on the cat and him on the 450 that the 450 could pull the cat. but with his wife on the 450 I think he and the cat would pull them around for a few feet. Mostly cause of weight, but the front diff, tires, and wheel base have some play in it too.