Oregon Scientific Releases the Next Gen Helmet Cam
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11-10-2010 | 06:24 PM
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Oregon Scientific Releases the Next Gen Helmet Cam
Hey guys, Oregon Scientific has released a really neat new helmet cam that you guys can use to capture your ATV adventures.
Here's a snippet from the article:
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What are your thoughts on the HD camera?
Here's a snippet from the article:
Originally Posted by ATV Connection
This easy-to-use, waterproof and shock-resistant camera can be strapped to a helmet, handlebars, surfboard, or snowboard, so it can follow athletes places they wouldn’t dare bring a normal camera – and shoots in high-definition.
A laser pointer on the camera also helps users line up the camera, so they never miss a moment of the action. Designed for the rugged adventure, the ATC9K does not sacrifice function over form – it features full 1080p professional quality HD video, shoots up to 60 frames per second, has 130 degree wide field of view, captures 5-megapixels photos, and has a built-in color LCD display that allows users to preview and play back videos.
A laser pointer on the camera also helps users line up the camera, so they never miss a moment of the action. Designed for the rugged adventure, the ATC9K does not sacrifice function over form – it features full 1080p professional quality HD video, shoots up to 60 frames per second, has 130 degree wide field of view, captures 5-megapixels photos, and has a built-in color LCD display that allows users to preview and play back videos.
What are your thoughts on the HD camera?
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11-11-2010 | 01:13 AM
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Seems like every company is finally coming out with a HD camera to try and compete with Contour and Go Pro. This camera and even the soon to be released POV HD camera still fall short with 1 key spec. Contours 1080p model 1300 camera will record almost twice as much video per gig. The contour is also smaller and has proven to be quite indestructable (trust me on this one) They are not listing the batteries estimated run time which is another spec that may fall a little short.
It lists that you shouldn't use this camera in conditions under 32 degrees F. Seems a little strange to me since I have used my contour under 10 degree temps without a problem (battery life is shortened though) The 2 things this camera has (along with every other camera except for contour) is the ability to take a pic with it and a lcd screen. I have friends with VIO 1.5s, drift x170s and go pros and they never use the screen and never take pics with it. I know when I ride and film my contour never misses a beat and I always know when it's powered and recording without removing my helmet and looking, where as all my friends (except the ones with POVs) never know what mode thiers is in or if it is even powered....lol. Nothing like pulling up next to one of them and being asked what color light is on or what symbol is showing. I say if you need to look at the camera to know if it's working or what mode your in it kind of defeats the purpose of a user friendly camera.
It lists that you shouldn't use this camera in conditions under 32 degrees F. Seems a little strange to me since I have used my contour under 10 degree temps without a problem (battery life is shortened though) The 2 things this camera has (along with every other camera except for contour) is the ability to take a pic with it and a lcd screen. I have friends with VIO 1.5s, drift x170s and go pros and they never use the screen and never take pics with it. I know when I ride and film my contour never misses a beat and I always know when it's powered and recording without removing my helmet and looking, where as all my friends (except the ones with POVs) never know what mode thiers is in or if it is even powered....lol. Nothing like pulling up next to one of them and being asked what color light is on or what symbol is showing. I say if you need to look at the camera to know if it's working or what mode your in it kind of defeats the purpose of a user friendly camera.
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11-11-2010 | 02:37 PM
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I have been looking somewhat for;
Does anybody make a helmet bracket that would hold a small hand held video camera?
Or can you buy a remote helmet cam that would tie-in to the hand held. I have a JVC Everio MG750BU that I carry sometimes, but would like to use it as I ride.
You two guys seem to know your cameras.
Does anybody make a helmet bracket that would hold a small hand held video camera?
Or can you buy a remote helmet cam that would tie-in to the hand held. I have a JVC Everio MG750BU that I carry sometimes, but would like to use it as I ride.
You two guys seem to know your cameras.
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12-30-2010 | 06:41 PM
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I have been looking somewhat for;
Does anybody make a helmet bracket that would hold a small hand held video camera?
Or can you buy a remote helmet cam that would tie-in to the hand held. I have a JVC Everio MG750BU that I carry sometimes, but would like to use it as I ride.
You two guys seem to know your cameras.
Does anybody make a helmet bracket that would hold a small hand held video camera?
Or can you buy a remote helmet cam that would tie-in to the hand held. I have a JVC Everio MG750BU that I carry sometimes, but would like to use it as I ride.
You two guys seem to know your cameras.
As for the tie-in part i'm not sure, if your JVC has a video and audio in port it might be doable, but the cam would have to have audio and video out, and most don't.
#6
01-04-2011 | 01:37 PM
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I work with Oregon Scientific, and would like to address any questions you have regarding the ATC9K.
The ATC9K will function perfectly in conditions under 32 degrees. Any device that utilizes a Lithium battery will suffer from decreased battery life in cold conditions. One way to lessen the effect of the cold on battery performance is to keep the camera warm while not in use.
When you use a helmet camera without a screen you wont know what your missing until the day is already over. It's frustrating when you think you've captured the perfect session, and ended up with a goose egg. I recently went up in a Sukhoi SU-29 acrobatic airplane. While we were preflighting we shot a short clip to make sure the camera was aimmed correctly. It wasn't. Had we not looked at the screen I would have missed my once in a life time opportunity to video a flight with one of the best acrobatic pilots in the world. Additionally the 1.5 inch screen allows you to adjust manual controls like Exposure Value, White Balance, Sharpness and Contrast on the fly.
The ATC9K Facebook page is one way Oregon Scientific can communicate directly with you. Post any questions or feedback here. We are listening, and would love to hear from you.
ATC Action Cam | Facebook
WATERPROOF & SHOCK RESISTANT
•Waterproof up to 20m
•Shock Resistant up to 1.2m
VIDEO
•Light Sensitivity: Low-light sensitivity (>1.3V/lux-sec)
•1080p = 1920x1080 pixels (16:9), 30 fps, ~12 Mbit/s data rate
•720p = 1280x720 pixels (16:9), 60 fps, ~12 Mbit/s data rate
•720p = 1280x720 pixels (16:9), 30 fps, ~8 Mbit/s data rate
•WVGA = 848x480 pixels (16:9), 60 fps, ~8Mbit/s data rate
AUDIO
•Microphone: Built-in, mono with AGC (automatic gain control) Audio Format: 48kHz (Max.) ADPCM
CAMERA
•3 Megapixel
•5 Megapixel
•Continuous Shooting every 10sec./ 20sec./ 30sec./ 1min./ 2min./ 5mins. / 10mins
•Full Manual Control Including 6 Camera Effects
SIZE - WEIGHT
•Size (H x W x D): 55mm x 44mm x 100mm. Don't let the close up product photo's fool you. The ATC9K is compact.
•Weight 6.5oz, or 185g/.2kgs which is slightly lighter then the GoPro with waterproof housing.
UNIQUE FEATURES
•Light Sensitivity: Low-light sensitivity (>1.3V/lux-sec)
•Optional GPS SENSOR Measure Speed, Log latitude and longitude, view route and stats on Google Maps •G-Force Sensor
•HDMI Cable Included
•1.5" LCD Color Screen •Laser Pointer (To Aim Camera)
MEMORY
•Up To 32GB (Micro SD)
BATTERY
•Rechargeable 1050mAh lithium
MOUNTS
•Tripod
•Helmet Grip (With Nylon & Silicon Straps)
•Handle Bar Mount
OPTIONAL ACCESSORIES
•GPS SENSOR Measure Speed, Log latitude and longitude, view route and stats on Google Maps
•Suction Cup Mount For Use On Any Smooth Surface
•Extra Battery
User Manual (A great way to preview all the features of the ATC9K)
http://www2.oregonscientific.com/uli...als2/ATC9K.PDF
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The ATC9K will function perfectly in conditions under 32 degrees. Any device that utilizes a Lithium battery will suffer from decreased battery life in cold conditions. One way to lessen the effect of the cold on battery performance is to keep the camera warm while not in use.
When you use a helmet camera without a screen you wont know what your missing until the day is already over. It's frustrating when you think you've captured the perfect session, and ended up with a goose egg. I recently went up in a Sukhoi SU-29 acrobatic airplane. While we were preflighting we shot a short clip to make sure the camera was aimmed correctly. It wasn't. Had we not looked at the screen I would have missed my once in a life time opportunity to video a flight with one of the best acrobatic pilots in the world. Additionally the 1.5 inch screen allows you to adjust manual controls like Exposure Value, White Balance, Sharpness and Contrast on the fly.
The ATC9K Facebook page is one way Oregon Scientific can communicate directly with you. Post any questions or feedback here. We are listening, and would love to hear from you.
ATC Action Cam | Facebook
WATERPROOF & SHOCK RESISTANT
•Waterproof up to 20m
•Shock Resistant up to 1.2m
VIDEO
•Light Sensitivity: Low-light sensitivity (>1.3V/lux-sec)
•1080p = 1920x1080 pixels (16:9), 30 fps, ~12 Mbit/s data rate
•720p = 1280x720 pixels (16:9), 60 fps, ~12 Mbit/s data rate
•720p = 1280x720 pixels (16:9), 30 fps, ~8 Mbit/s data rate
•WVGA = 848x480 pixels (16:9), 60 fps, ~8Mbit/s data rate
AUDIO
•Microphone: Built-in, mono with AGC (automatic gain control) Audio Format: 48kHz (Max.) ADPCM
CAMERA
•3 Megapixel
•5 Megapixel
•Continuous Shooting every 10sec./ 20sec./ 30sec./ 1min./ 2min./ 5mins. / 10mins
•Full Manual Control Including 6 Camera Effects
SIZE - WEIGHT
•Size (H x W x D): 55mm x 44mm x 100mm. Don't let the close up product photo's fool you. The ATC9K is compact.
•Weight 6.5oz, or 185g/.2kgs which is slightly lighter then the GoPro with waterproof housing.
UNIQUE FEATURES
•Light Sensitivity: Low-light sensitivity (>1.3V/lux-sec)
•Optional GPS SENSOR Measure Speed, Log latitude and longitude, view route and stats on Google Maps •G-Force Sensor
•HDMI Cable Included
•1.5" LCD Color Screen •Laser Pointer (To Aim Camera)
MEMORY
•Up To 32GB (Micro SD)
BATTERY
•Rechargeable 1050mAh lithium
MOUNTS
•Tripod
•Helmet Grip (With Nylon & Silicon Straps)
•Handle Bar Mount
OPTIONAL ACCESSORIES
•GPS SENSOR Measure Speed, Log latitude and longitude, view route and stats on Google Maps
•Suction Cup Mount For Use On Any Smooth Surface
•Extra Battery
User Manual (A great way to preview all the features of the ATC9K)
http://www2.oregonscientific.com/uli...als2/ATC9K.PDF
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01-04-2011 | 11:27 PM
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rennspeed why don't you post that video you are talking about in the above post. So far I haven't seen any good video shot from this thing online (I am sure just due to the users not setting it up properly) and since you work for them you should be able to show us what great videos it can produce.
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01-05-2011 | 12:00 AM
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Instead of supplying my own edited footage here is a random clip I found on Vimeo.
Septembre 201/0 on Vimeo
If you want to use the Contour HD in the water you would need to spend another $50 for the waterproof housing.
"They are not listing the batteries estimated run time which is another spec that may fall a little short."
Depending on how you set up your ATC9K you can see upwards of 2 hours on one battery charge.
"I have friends with VIO 1.5s, drift x170s and go pros and they never take pics with it"
Before I start any journey I always shoot still images of my friends and our surroundings. The ATC9K can be set to automatically take 3 or 5 megapixel photo's every 10sec./ 20sec./ 30sec./ 1min./ 2min./ 5mins. / 10mins. Once I started using this feature, I cant imagine having an action cam without it.
Septembre 201/0 on Vimeo
If you want to use the Contour HD in the water you would need to spend another $50 for the waterproof housing.
"They are not listing the batteries estimated run time which is another spec that may fall a little short."
Depending on how you set up your ATC9K you can see upwards of 2 hours on one battery charge.
"I have friends with VIO 1.5s, drift x170s and go pros and they never take pics with it"
Before I start any journey I always shoot still images of my friends and our surroundings. The ATC9K can be set to automatically take 3 or 5 megapixel photo's every 10sec./ 20sec./ 30sec./ 1min./ 2min./ 5mins. / 10mins. Once I started using this feature, I cant imagine having an action cam without it.
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01-05-2011 | 08:45 PM
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Although not an atv ride clip (after all this is an atv site) it was better then anything I have seen shot from this camera on youtube or vimeo so far. But still not as good as some of the older contour #1200 720p vids I have shot let alone the 1080p contour footage. I was really expecting you to post something that was gonna blow me away and make me want this camera but.... For your responses to my statements from my original posts....
Your battery specs do fall short of the Contours. The least amount of run time I have experienced with any of the contour hd cams is 2.5 hours and that was in 0 degree temps and the camera never left my helmet for the whole day, no need to warm it up as you mentioned above. In temps above 32 degrees up to 100 degrees I always manage 3 hours off a single battery. I never shoot 1080p so that may reduce battery life on the contours but at 720p 30 or 60fps I get good battery life. I didn't see actual battery specs per mode posted from you so what will 720p @ 60fps net for battery life?
Yes the contours require a waterproof case at an additional cost ($35 on ebay) if you want to submerge it in water but I don't use one. I have used gopro's and tried the contour waterproof case but they aren't necessary for atv riding. My contour gets wet, muddy and covered in snow and has never leaked since it is water resistant. Besides I use different lenses on my contour, UV, Polarizing and ND so a case doesn't work for it. Can you add lenses to your camera with an adapter or is it as is due to the case? If you can then that would be a nice feature.
As for shooting stills I and everyone I ride with carry 10 mega pixel or above cameras. So shooting stills from a helmet cam to me is like shooting pics from my droid. Some guys will love the all in features but I prefer shooting stills with a good camera.
Don't take this the wrong way cause you have a chance to really sell your product. I don't work for contour but in essence have sold a lot of cameras for them just based off my ride videos, reviews and associations with a few atv sites. So if you are able to impress and convert me you may convert many others. And Contour announced their app for their GPS cams to be viewed on your iPhone or Droid via bluetooth so without providing some awesome quality video to show us right now your only advantage over them would be the ability to shoot stills.
Your battery specs do fall short of the Contours. The least amount of run time I have experienced with any of the contour hd cams is 2.5 hours and that was in 0 degree temps and the camera never left my helmet for the whole day, no need to warm it up as you mentioned above. In temps above 32 degrees up to 100 degrees I always manage 3 hours off a single battery. I never shoot 1080p so that may reduce battery life on the contours but at 720p 30 or 60fps I get good battery life. I didn't see actual battery specs per mode posted from you so what will 720p @ 60fps net for battery life?
Yes the contours require a waterproof case at an additional cost ($35 on ebay) if you want to submerge it in water but I don't use one. I have used gopro's and tried the contour waterproof case but they aren't necessary for atv riding. My contour gets wet, muddy and covered in snow and has never leaked since it is water resistant. Besides I use different lenses on my contour, UV, Polarizing and ND so a case doesn't work for it. Can you add lenses to your camera with an adapter or is it as is due to the case? If you can then that would be a nice feature.
As for shooting stills I and everyone I ride with carry 10 mega pixel or above cameras. So shooting stills from a helmet cam to me is like shooting pics from my droid. Some guys will love the all in features but I prefer shooting stills with a good camera.
Don't take this the wrong way cause you have a chance to really sell your product. I don't work for contour but in essence have sold a lot of cameras for them just based off my ride videos, reviews and associations with a few atv sites. So if you are able to impress and convert me you may convert many others. And Contour announced their app for their GPS cams to be viewed on your iPhone or Droid via bluetooth so without providing some awesome quality video to show us right now your only advantage over them would be the ability to shoot stills.
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01-07-2011 | 11:46 PM
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The fact is no lithium-ion battery will function optimally below freezing.
The quote below was taken directly from Contour.com
The Oregon Scientific ATC9K will shoot continuously for 90 minutes when recording full HD, and will last for up to 3.5 hours in standby mode.
The only way to remove the subjective nature of this discussion is with a side by side comparison of the ATC9k to the Contour. The attached clip from actioncameras.co.uk is just that.
YouTube - Comparaison GoPro HD vs Drift HD170 vs ContourHD vs ATC9k
The quote below was taken directly from Contour.com
The ContourHD battery will last about two hours (120 minutes) when recording SD and about 90 minutes when recording HD. Additionally, the lithium-ion battery life is reduced in cold weather conditions.
The only way to remove the subjective nature of this discussion is with a side by side comparison of the ATC9k to the Contour. The attached clip from actioncameras.co.uk is just that.
YouTube - Comparaison GoPro HD vs Drift HD170 vs ContourHD vs ATC9k