I am having alot of trouble with whoops, I am riding them fine but they are kicking my ***. So my question is what can I do to my bike to make the whoops easier and so I can hit them harder. My quad is all stock and If it stays this bad I am going back to my dirtbike because it sucks.


03 ds 650

 

Proper set up of the suspension will help alot. Rider position has alot to do with it to. I think Eaglecollector site has the instructions for proper set up front and rear. When I hit the whoops I put my weight back and run it wide open, You have to carry the front end through them to prevent the bucking effect. Try to hit them as square as possible and dont let up on the throttle. My bike runs them the best in 3rd and wide open. a longer swing arm seemed to help alot also.

 

If it kicks you in the butt, thats rebound - too much!

 

They way i learned the best is lean back and hold on. It helped me through un-rythemed sections but when you get a rythem goin its easy. You probably kbow that tho cause you mentioned you had a bike. But like scatterbrain mentioned you have to carry the front end.

 

weight back, pin it and hang on. Pushing the little red button can help[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

Mount a trailer hitch ball to the seat, sit on it and hang on[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] LOL

 

Im not even going to ask how you hang on to the 800 stroker[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

what is eaglecollectors site?

 

ds650 dot net

 

Quads are tough to set up for whoops. On the DS650 I just sold I found that both the front and rear suspension adjustments were important (Ohlins shocks), and that each end affected the other end as much as it affected itself. The compression damping on the rear will affect the front as much as the rear; the rebound damping on the rear will affect the front as much as the rear, and vice versa. Only make one adjustment at a time or you will never get anywhere, and you need to get both ends working together to be able to carry the front end just right. You want the front to just skim the tops of the whoops when you hold the throttle on for a section of whoops. If the front end is too high, decreasing the rebound in the rear will drop the front. If the front is too low decreasing the compression damping in the rear will raise the front, etc. It can take the better part of a day trying the same section of whoops over and over again, with single adjustments between each run to get it working perfect, but once you have it dialed in you will be able to reel in other quads like childs play when you hit the whoops. And I'm not talking about the baby whoops that any clown in the world can do, like at the bottom of comp hill at the dunes, I'm talking about miles and miles and miles of never ending huge whoops, like you can find in desert races.

The quads will still suck at whoops compared to dirt bikes though. Even with my Ohlins shocks dialed in perfectly on my last DS650 I wouldn't even attempt the speed a dirt bike can carry through whoops. It is nothing at all to ride 30" high whoops in fifth gear on my KTM; if I tried that on a quad I would be a dead man.

Good luck.

[edit] whoa, thats weird. Why do I get a link to POOlaris' web site when I simply type the word "tough"? Trust me, it wasn't my idea, LOL.

DV.