More roadless info
#1
here are some web pages with roadless info.. http://www.searchcolorado.com/glenwo...07000003.shtml
http://www.billingsgazette.com/regio...04_r8raci.html
http://www.missoulian.com/archives/i...136-news03.txt
http://www.billingsgazette.com/regio...04_r8raci.html
http://www.missoulian.com/archives/i...136-news03.txt
#2
I went to the roadless meeting a few days ago and here are the responces:
1. If you cant get a full size truck down the road easly, or the road is barly traveled it is closed! but in "some" cases a Trail "MAY" be built- yeah right
2. Roadless does not mean trailess but does mean no secondary roads will be open.
3. Q: If I have a favorate 4x4 road that leads to a nice hot spring that noone knows about, can i still travel it as i do now? A: NO, you will be fined and the road most likley will be destroyed.
I left feeling like the whole country was agenst off road travel. Everyone there was communiust wackos do-gooders from local colleges. This country is headed south, the power of these wackos is just crazy. *sorry about the spelling, i am kinda tried as it is 2am*
1. If you cant get a full size truck down the road easly, or the road is barly traveled it is closed! but in "some" cases a Trail "MAY" be built- yeah right
2. Roadless does not mean trailess but does mean no secondary roads will be open.
3. Q: If I have a favorate 4x4 road that leads to a nice hot spring that noone knows about, can i still travel it as i do now? A: NO, you will be fined and the road most likley will be destroyed.
I left feeling like the whole country was agenst off road travel. Everyone there was communiust wackos do-gooders from local colleges. This country is headed south, the power of these wackos is just crazy. *sorry about the spelling, i am kinda tried as it is 2am*
#3
Your experience, JRM, is not unlike mine, attending a Forest Service "workshop."
The audience of about 80 was dominated by "Lost In The '60's" people; aging hippies or a new crop of young "re-enactors."
Flower Power folk.
These people have the same right of expression as the timber cutter I sat with; someone who can never harvest the standing dead hardwood killed by the gypsy moth. The same right as the electric power and pipeline men, who can't maintain their right-of-way with motorized equipment. The same as the people who want to explore for minerals. The same as the ATV manufacturers, retailers, and riders (none of whom besides me, by the way, attended my meeting).
However, the current administration's Forest Service thrust and policy favors the "Cutting a tree is murder!" crowd. I would hope the government listens to voices besides the preservationist, "The world is a museum" bunch. I salute you for attending and making another point of view known.
Tree Farmer
The audience of about 80 was dominated by "Lost In The '60's" people; aging hippies or a new crop of young "re-enactors."
Flower Power folk.
These people have the same right of expression as the timber cutter I sat with; someone who can never harvest the standing dead hardwood killed by the gypsy moth. The same right as the electric power and pipeline men, who can't maintain their right-of-way with motorized equipment. The same as the people who want to explore for minerals. The same as the ATV manufacturers, retailers, and riders (none of whom besides me, by the way, attended my meeting).
However, the current administration's Forest Service thrust and policy favors the "Cutting a tree is murder!" crowd. I would hope the government listens to voices besides the preservationist, "The world is a museum" bunch. I salute you for attending and making another point of view known.
Tree Farmer
#4
Thats exactly what my father said, the city people want the forest as there own personal museum and noone else can go there. I will be going to the feedback meeting in a few weeks. I live in a western slope part of oregon that gets over 100" rain yearly with dougless fir standing 100' tall. I have gone to college and taken forestery class's and understand that clear cutting is the only way to harvest as these trees do not grow in shade. These wackos even talked the forest service into slective cutting. Here is a web page of one local "green" national forest:
http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/
http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/
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