way too many speculations. There's way to many "probablies" and "I bets". Seriously it's getting old. This has been a waste of a thread, and a waste of time for everyone who read through it. No good, new, positive or negative information that can be proved to be factual with experience, all crap. you guys all gotta stop bitchin' at each other, you're hurting the sport more than helping it. my 2 cents. and who said they wouldn't buy a dale? and why not? if you get the updates done, maybe 600$ you can walk all over any precious yfz or honda 450r