They really slapped the face of Honda
Mar 8, 2005 | 09:10 AM
#231
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They really slapped the face of Honda
When you're on top, everyone tries to knock you down.
If I'm going into the ATV business, I would offer whatever Honda doesn't and sell it like it was a must have feature. Salesmen, newbies, and journalists (particularly when that manufacturer spends heavy advertising in their mag) usually fall for the marketing hype, many don't.
It is impossible for manufacturers like Polaris (for example) to offer 40 years of reliability, so they offer gizmos that Honda doesn't. Big deal to some, not to me. I personally will not buy another Polaris for some time. Maybe with the infusion of millions of our tax payer dollars paying $15000 a unit from Polaris will give them the money they need to work out all the bugs in their "market leading" technology, I might buy one in the future. However, I'm not going into the Polaris board and listing all my gripes...........
You want the latest in marketing flash, buy something else - don't post an opinion article like this on a Honda forum and not expect people to disagree. You want people to agree post it on another mfg's forum, you'll have a lot of friends. Don't be sore at Honda because you can't buy one that has everything under the sun so you can brag about have every technological advance to ATVs + sound engineering and yours is better than everyone else’s.
If I'm going into the ATV business, I would offer whatever Honda doesn't and sell it like it was a must have feature. Salesmen, newbies, and journalists (particularly when that manufacturer spends heavy advertising in their mag) usually fall for the marketing hype, many don't.
It is impossible for manufacturers like Polaris (for example) to offer 40 years of reliability, so they offer gizmos that Honda doesn't. Big deal to some, not to me. I personally will not buy another Polaris for some time. Maybe with the infusion of millions of our tax payer dollars paying $15000 a unit from Polaris will give them the money they need to work out all the bugs in their "market leading" technology, I might buy one in the future. However, I'm not going into the Polaris board and listing all my gripes...........
You want the latest in marketing flash, buy something else - don't post an opinion article like this on a Honda forum and not expect people to disagree. You want people to agree post it on another mfg's forum, you'll have a lot of friends. Don't be sore at Honda because you can't buy one that has everything under the sun so you can brag about have every technological advance to ATVs + sound engineering and yours is better than everyone else’s.
Mar 8, 2005 | 09:17 AM
#232
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They really slapped the face of Honda
IM sorry, But I'll tell you what Honda Owners. If your Happy with what you ride, and Happy with your machine, then Ride it and be happy, you dont have to answer to not a dang soul other than yourself at the end of the day.
I ride an 87 Cr 500, a 96 Kx 500, a 99 KTM 300 EXC, an 01 300 EXC, an 02 400 EXC an 02 200 EXC, and an 03 525 EXC.
I also Have a Honda FOurtrax 70, an ATC 125 m, and a Polaris Sportsman
I have learned, or tried to, to be happy with MY decision. Being a Polaris Owner, It's the norm to hear all about the crap with belts, reliability, weight, etc.. I Got tired of it at First, and then learned to disregard it.
Amazingly, I also hear it from alot of the Jap Bike riders about KTM. But there will always be one in my stable, because they have what I want in a bike.
I think Honda Utes have some of the good and not so good features in their machines. I also think that, Polaris, Suzuki, kawi, Yamaha, AC and Bomb also have the good and Not soo good in their quads.
I think a Better title to this thread would have been " Honda riders, What do you think?" And Actually DIscussed whether the lack of these features are important to you, whether it may lead you to purchase a different make in the future, Or if your just happy with what you Have. It would have lent itself to some good discussion without the pissing match it turned into. Afterall, My thoughts should have absolutely no bearing whatsoever as to whether someone else buys or doesnt buy a honda ATV.
I ride an 87 Cr 500, a 96 Kx 500, a 99 KTM 300 EXC, an 01 300 EXC, an 02 400 EXC an 02 200 EXC, and an 03 525 EXC.
I also Have a Honda FOurtrax 70, an ATC 125 m, and a Polaris Sportsman
I have learned, or tried to, to be happy with MY decision. Being a Polaris Owner, It's the norm to hear all about the crap with belts, reliability, weight, etc.. I Got tired of it at First, and then learned to disregard it.
Amazingly, I also hear it from alot of the Jap Bike riders about KTM. But there will always be one in my stable, because they have what I want in a bike.
I think Honda Utes have some of the good and not so good features in their machines. I also think that, Polaris, Suzuki, kawi, Yamaha, AC and Bomb also have the good and Not soo good in their quads.
I think a Better title to this thread would have been " Honda riders, What do you think?" And Actually DIscussed whether the lack of these features are important to you, whether it may lead you to purchase a different make in the future, Or if your just happy with what you Have. It would have lent itself to some good discussion without the pissing match it turned into. Afterall, My thoughts should have absolutely no bearing whatsoever as to whether someone else buys or doesnt buy a honda ATV.
Mar 8, 2005 | 09:27 AM
#234
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They really slapped the face of Honda
Originally posted by: motox26
Muddy4life, Im sorry you lost your mom, but it's not like anybody was doing anything but joking around or even knew anything about your losses in 'the real' world. And to pull that card out of no where is a little strange, but anyways if it is going to get you like that then Im done and you can have the thread. You must really be bothered to go back and actually re-read the whole dam thing. I'll give you a holler when Im heading up your way.
Muddy4life, Im sorry you lost your mom, but it's not like anybody was doing anything but joking around or even knew anything about your losses in 'the real' world. And to pull that card out of no where is a little strange, but anyways if it is going to get you like that then Im done and you can have the thread. You must really be bothered to go back and actually re-read the whole dam thing. I'll give you a holler when Im heading up your way.
Mar 8, 2005 | 10:28 AM
#235
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Those 6-packs work pretty good.
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Those 6-packs work pretty good.
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From: Oeste Del Tejas
They really slapped the face of Honda
Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
I very carefully looked at all 12 pages of this topic and tried to figure out exactly where it started to go wrong at?
Everything is fine until the Top of page 6,where MUDBLASTER accused me of calling him a boy,,which was a false accusation.
Page 7--MOTO starts out with,,I ENJOYED DEBATING WITH YOU,BUT YOUR A DAMN IDIOT.[refering to me]Now IMO,this is EXACTLY where the name calling FIRST starts in this forum.[Please check it out for yourself]
Page 8--MOTO starts his BS with KTMGUY70 and even accussed him of throwing low blows and you told him he was acting like a child.
Page 9--MOTO starts on me again,states that I just come back from recess and I was mad at him because he shut me out earlier,MOTO further brags about his first place plaque and how he has schooled me in these forums.[with absolutely NO evidence to back up such a statement in the first place]
Page 11--Raptorlegs AND MOTO talk very badly about my recently deceased mother..
You know something,I very carefully re-read this ENTIRE post,and there was nothing I said to MOTO that merited him calling me an idiot ON PAGE 7!!--Re-read EVERYTHING up to that point,you will all see WHO started the BS and WHERE things STARTED to go bad...
And the rude statements you said about my RECENTLY deceased mother [whom I dearly love],, there is nothing in the world that I'd rather do than to see your *** come to Michigan and 'show me what you got'And while your at it,see if you can convince raptorlegs to join you?
Please let me know in advance when your coming and where you plan to ride.
I very carefully looked at all 12 pages of this topic and tried to figure out exactly where it started to go wrong at?
Everything is fine until the Top of page 6,where MUDBLASTER accused me of calling him a boy,,which was a false accusation.
Page 7--MOTO starts out with,,I ENJOYED DEBATING WITH YOU,BUT YOUR A DAMN IDIOT.[refering to me]Now IMO,this is EXACTLY where the name calling FIRST starts in this forum.[Please check it out for yourself]
Page 8--MOTO starts his BS with KTMGUY70 and even accussed him of throwing low blows and you told him he was acting like a child.
Page 9--MOTO starts on me again,states that I just come back from recess and I was mad at him because he shut me out earlier,MOTO further brags about his first place plaque and how he has schooled me in these forums.[with absolutely NO evidence to back up such a statement in the first place]
Page 11--Raptorlegs AND MOTO talk very badly about my recently deceased mother..
You know something,I very carefully re-read this ENTIRE post,and there was nothing I said to MOTO that merited him calling me an idiot ON PAGE 7!!--Re-read EVERYTHING up to that point,you will all see WHO started the BS and WHERE things STARTED to go bad...
And the rude statements you said about my RECENTLY deceased mother [whom I dearly love],, there is nothing in the world that I'd rather do than to see your *** come to Michigan and 'show me what you got'And while your at it,see if you can convince raptorlegs to join you?
Please let me know in advance when your coming and where you plan to ride.
Awww, someone got hims feewings huwt! Awww!
Sheez! I was just having a little fun, ya big pansy! Bet you cried a lot on the playground too, huh? Can dish it out but can't take it.
Mar 8, 2005 | 10:55 AM
#237
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They really slapped the face of Honda
I still don't understand how he can ignore everything he does?[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img] And ignore the fact that hardly no one agrees with him. I know I would never take the pu$$y way out[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
Mar 8, 2005 | 01:24 PM
#239
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What irritates me is!
Those 6-packs work pretty good.
What irritates me is!
Those 6-packs work pretty good.
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From: Oeste Del Tejas
They really slapped the face of Honda
"You know you have a passion
when your fourwheeler cost more
than the truck you haul it in. "
You're 14, what truck is that? Tonka? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
when your fourwheeler cost more
than the truck you haul it in. "
You're 14, what truck is that? Tonka? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Mar 8, 2005 | 02:17 PM
#240
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They really slapped the face of Honda
Originally posted by: iwannaride2
raptorlegs acts like more of a kid than me, and i am only 14... i wouldn't mind seein muddy4life rippin the legs off that raptor and beatin him to death with em'
raptorlegs acts like more of a kid than me, and i am only 14... i wouldn't mind seein muddy4life rippin the legs off that raptor and beatin him to death with em'
