Hey alltoys!!! I got my V from shellbrook, Naber Ford. Did you get the green one? If so that was mine first but it had a ticking sound in the motor so I got the other green one. I hope they got it fixed properly before handing it off to you. If you got an orange one then it should be ok. Thats cool they are giving you a V, how long are you allowed to keep it? Who did you talk to there about it? I wonder when this is all said and done if they will be the leading dealership for performane mods for the V.

Anyways, have fun with that V.

 

Alltoys, I have a 12 hour thingy coming up that I may have mentioned to u a time or 2!! That would be a great proving ground for a certain ignition we have spoken about in the past and present! Just picture the magazines as people read how a unknown local team laps the team Kawasaki racers!!!!! LOL[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

ALLTOYS;

Congrads on the ignition, hope that you find the answer. Keep us informed.

The ignition will give lots more RPM's, but this can be easily obtained by lighting the clutch and it won't cost a cent, unless you mess up, all it will take is time.

by drilling 8 1/2 inches holes in the face plate, you will raise your RPM's by 500 - 600 rpm's. By removing some cooling fans on the back of the clutch you'll rev to the moon.

The advantage to doing this, is after you get your RPM's on the limitor, you can add heavier clutch weights that will give you more bite on the belt and still be in your power band.

DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK! the face plate is easy and doesn't cost an arm and a leg to replace, but the cooling fans could cost you a clutch.

FYI, have fun beating those other bikes!

 

AllToys,

Give me a shout when you are ready....rholmes@lexmark.com or lakesideinvest@hotmail.com

I will be over in a flash with the stock V700

Randy

 

Shotgun,
You are absolutely right about the clutch I to have drilled holes and milled the face plate plus taken off vains on the reverse side it is amazing how much this helps. I have also remachined the base of the sheaves so they will compress more pushing the belt higher up the sheave this helps dramatically for top end. One more thing is to remachine the sheaves sot the angle of attack is is 2 degrees sharper this grabs the belt on the upper side forcing it up the sheave faster along with lighter weights it ramps very quickly. Is this how you get 10,000 rpm even with those big tires I didn't think you could get passed the 8200 mark, that's great I will chat with you later.

Prairie Wrench,
Once you have this system on your machine you will smoke anything in the south guaranteed. I will keep in touch.

XC800,
Randy I will have a long drive on Saturday but if you wish to get together possibly on Sunday you can come see the Toy Shop. I will let you in some stuff that I have done make sure you bring your machine I can help you with modds if you are interested.

One more thing and this is very good for us P650 and 700 owners since I have posted on this forum about the ignition a British company has become interested in this unit as they have been asked to look into building something for the Kawi. It seems that Kawi has a big following in Europe. What this means to us is cheaper pricing all around. They build ignitions for Norton, BSA, and Triumph and most crotch rocket bent over the gas tank race bikes. They have a simple crank pickup to a coil with a small control device that changes timeing and rev limiter again very simple and very inexpensive. I like the inexpensive part. I will let you know more about that as time passes. I am waiting for one final component before I install my system again then I will post my results.

BBertram,
We are talking about the same place same great people to deal with I think they are 2nd or 3rd rated in Canada. Not sure what colour the V700 is I will let you know maybe you should have taken the green one when I get through with it you will have to go for a drive to see it. I think I get for 3 - 4 weeks that should be enough time I think LOL.

 

Dangerous,
Excuse me for not getting back to your sooner. The Haltech you speek of will work but is very pricy unless of course you already have it. The only problem I found actually a few is it needs 2 light pickups for the wheel the problem with the lights they are prone to reflection which means they can misdirect light which will cause a misfire. They must also be totally boxed in with absolutely no possibility of contamination I used this system for a mud run and it didn't last the day unfortuneatly. The brain box is also a sore point as it must remain in a clean invireonment which sometimes is not possible. I shouldn't let you down on the Haltech because it is good system and it has been used for many applications but you will have to seal it up very good. Pm me I can give a better low down on the unit. Actually the one I am using is a mag sensor with a notched wheel and it was designed to be used outside of the engine I will say almost full proof.

 

Hey alltoys make sure you get a baseline on the V totally stock and do testing on each mod you do. That way we can see how the mods will affect the V. If you can do this to the P650 too then that would be great too. Like a timed run down a stretch of road or something like that, along with top speed runs on a GPS or something. Just throwing ideas out not trying to tell you what to do or anything.

Can you imagine if a company like you mentioned picked up the R&D on the ignition, we would all be saved. Kawi would rock everyones world, you would even see a P650 beat a raptor lol, not to mention that YFZ 450.

Will you give back the V700 to Naber Ford with the modifications or will you take them off? Are you going to do any exhaust work on it? Or just ignition stuff.


I know lots of questions, its not everyday we get this sort of action in Canada and from the same place I bought my V from.....just a little excited. hehe

 

Alltoys,

The near 10,000 RpM's was on a new motor, that had approx 12 miles before my son recked the bike. It had a Haltect programable ignition on it. You can set the rev limitor at what ever you want.

He went into a hole on a rail road bed, he saw the hole coming and got slowed down to 45 MPH. Going into the hole he got thrown ahead and stabbed the throttle. It stood straight up and threw him off. He will be ok, in a few weeks, but the bike, after doing summer salts down a 10 ft. bank and running for 5 or 10 min on its side is not in very good shape, the motor is ruined and the haltech brain box which we had taped to the rear rack, until we got the adjustments set to where we wanted them, was ruined.

The bike doesn't matter, but my son does, glad he'll be OK.

 

hey alltoys. sounds like you got some "quailty time" coming with the V. if you do get the ignition to work on it I think everyone will be lining up on your font door step to get one! wish I could right more but I have to get going. later

friesen

 

BBertram,
Mostly everything I do to the V700 will stay on it except the ignition that stays with me. The clutch is going to go under a major reworking along with intake and ignition. The 700 has lots of jam off the start so I want to detune the start and give it some big punch in the mid and definitely top end. I have found the perfect take off from watching drags and holeshots from videos is to have the front end come off the ground about 2 inches then level off at 3500 rpm. Soon as this happens max timeing will engage to just under determined rev limit. It seems 350 feet is good finish point mostly because of the 1/8 mile. The bike or any performance machine should keep pulling to end run. A stock motor like our V format should pull very hard to 11,000 rpm with no adverse effects. I think at least from playing around with the 650 that after 3500 the motor can have serious HP not that the bottom end is lacking. It is hard to keep the front end down, by retarding the timeing somewhat that will remedy the situation so at least you can go totally nuts and not have to back out of the throttle. If it is timed right you won't know any difference and it will be a total package. Once the package is delivered then Nos can be introduced which will have a dramatic result. My intent is to rev out at 9000 rpm at the 350 foot mark this will work better than any big bore kit manufactured. I had my 650 up to 72mph in 350 feet so I wonder what the V700 can do?

Shtogun,
Sorry to hear about your son, hope he heals fast so he can ride some more. Give the old man some more grey hairs LOL. My kid stops my ticker when he does a front wheel stand on his rice rocket!!!!