Kawasaki Discussions about Kawasaki ATVs.

My County Fair V-Force Drag results.....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #21  
Old 08-12-2003 | 10:34 AM
brewster2003's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Pro Rider
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Default My County Fair V-Force Drag results.....

Mac, yes it would. Samcoeds does very well in drag racing and he uses the stock spring. Lightening the clutch helps get the RPM's up.
 
  #22  
Old 08-12-2003 | 07:48 PM
prairievenom's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 555
Likes: 0
Default My County Fair V-Force Drag results.....

Originally posted by: SHOTGUN
brewster;

Those pic's are sweet.

I like that clutch plate. you should have just cut out the centers, LOL

I might do a little more drilling on mine after seeing yours.

The lighter we can get the clutches, the heavier the weights we can use and still keep RPM's, nice job.

Have you done anything else to lighten it and does it whistle.
why would you want to use heiver weights after lighting the clutch [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
 
  #23  
Old 08-12-2003 | 09:35 PM
ansible's Avatar
Trailblazer
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Default My County Fair V-Force Drag results.....

thanks for the link brewster!
 
  #24  
Old 08-12-2003 | 09:57 PM
SHOTGUN's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,788
Likes: 0
Default My County Fair V-Force Drag results.....

prairievenom;

Weights are what make your clutch shift up. The heavier the weights the faster it will shift, the more speed you get, the faster you get it. They will also put more force (squeeze on the belt) there will be less slippage.

The problem with just adding heavier weights is the more weight, the less RPM's.

So if you lighten your clutch first, you'll gain more RPM's, then that will allow you (if you want) to put in heavier weights, those weights will bring your RPM's back down, but now you have more pickup and still have the same or more RPM's than you started with.

To make it simple it will make you quicker. if you lighten you clutch and didn't add heavier clutch weights, then you would be faster. One way quicker, one way faster, (meaning top end).

[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
 
  #25  
Old 08-12-2003 | 10:41 PM
Bubba297's Avatar
Extreme Pro Rider
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,042
Likes: 1
Default My County Fair V-Force Drag results.....

Unless you can accurately balance a clutch after drilling, your messing with fire and will get burned. Crank bearing failure will be apparent sooner. Put as much weight as possible that the motor will pull without affecting RPM engagement and top speed. The rest can be achieved by the primary spring. Do the secondaries on those machine allow for helix and spring tension changes? If so you need to experiment with different helixes as well if they are available. Auto clutches all work on the same principle. A proper split helix will allow the motor to accelerate and keep the proper RPMs on top. And just in case you didnt think I know, I always do my own clutch tuning,porting, and built my alky Sport. Dont take me wrong,please, I'm really just trying to help. Polaris keeps an extreme tolerance on clutch balancing and it wont take much to change to greatly affect inertia weight. That would have to apply to any I would think. Bubba
 
  #26  
Old 08-12-2003 | 10:43 PM
HELIX's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 217
Likes: 0
Default My County Fair V-Force Drag results.....

stock weights on a v are 54g,not 60 like a prairie.

Shotgun is correct, optimum rpm on a v for 300 ft is approx 6400 @100 ' 6800@200' 7000@300'

a decent time on a clutched v in 300' is 5.90(stock) , 5.70's(clutched,piped,jetted)

 
  #27  
Old 08-12-2003 | 10:48 PM
HELIX's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 217
Likes: 0
Default My County Fair V-Force Drag results.....

Hey Bubba, What kind a pipe you run on the LT80?Might put one on the kids.
 
  #28  
Old 08-12-2003 | 11:07 PM
brewster2003's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Pro Rider
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Default My County Fair V-Force Drag results.....

Helix, can you define what you mean by a "clutched V" what exactly are you saying to do to the clutch?

Bubba, you a probably correct (I would think) regarding the crank wear, but I think that can be kept to a minimum if only used for short drag runs. For all day rides I think it is smart to keep a balanced set up of course to prevent any premature wear.
 
  #29  
Old 08-12-2003 | 11:49 PM
wildwill's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
Default My County Fair V-Force Drag results.....

Shotgun and Brewster

I noticed in your face plate pictures that the V-force doesn't have a steel bearing on it like the Prairie for the EBC. I have my EBC removed so I think I will try a V-force plate out. That should save on weight and help the risk of being unbalanced! Has anyone tried this on their Prairie?

Bubba

Do you know where to get clutches balanced? I would like to have mine done. If your clutches are out of balance you will lose some HP as well as bearing wear, don't you think? You say you do it yourself, mind telling how? Thanks

 
  #30  
Old 08-13-2003 | 12:12 AM
Bubba297's Avatar
Extreme Pro Rider
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,042
Likes: 1
Default My County Fair V-Force Drag results.....

Helix, the pipe is an FMF fatty. It makes lots of bottom end and midrange grunt but still adds to the top. Shave the head .020, port the jug slightly, and lighten the primary and secondary clutches some and you wouldnt believe the difference. I also changed the reeds and ported the reedcage. Our daughter weighs 105lbs and her wheeler runs 1 full sec faster in 300 feet than lighter kids on the stock units.

Brewster, by saying a clutched V he means that the clutching has been matched or modified to suit the particulear engine combo


Wildwill, I dont have the ability to spin balance the sheaves or spider as the polaris clutches dont need that part modified. I do use an intricate digital balancing scale when modifying the weights or to simply make a good balanced set. There are Polaris places such as RCR,HPD or Aaen that have the ability to balance them. Hope that helps.I didnt mean to barge in on this forum guys, just know that some general info on the auto stuff might be handy. Bubba
 


Quick Reply: My County Fair V-Force Drag results.....



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:26 PM.