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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by: prairie633 - Also I think the top end retarding begins at 6500RPM, not 6800RPM. The stock curve was posted by Sgt. Rock? when the Dyna was first released and may still be on his page somewhere.
OMG, I hope you're wrong! I've got my clutching set up for 6800 RPM's!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]
 
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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Some other food for thought - If you take almost any module with a degree key, and put it up against the Dyna CDI, you probably will see very little difference in drag ET's and speed at under 300 ft. Which ever machine is tuned the best will win.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by: NovaKaw650
Originally posted by: prairie633 - Also I think the top end retarding begins at 6500RPM, not 6800RPM. The stock curve was posted by Sgt. Rock? when the Dyna was first released and may still be on his page somewhere.
OMG, I hope you're wrong! I've got my clutching set up for 6800 RPM's!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]
The timing does not start to retard bad till after 7200rpm so with your 6deg key you will be around 30-32deg
 
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Don at DGR told me that the DG3 makes the timing go to 28* and stay there until 8450 rpms.


Similiar to the curve 4 the V
 
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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Hmm.... that should require both a speed sensor and RPM input to the CDI; the electronic genius's on the forum have always said that changing the high RPM timing map wasn't possible w/o somehow sending a false RPM reading back to the CDI, and then being able to process it. No module has this output.
I remain extremely sceptical of the DG3 claims. There must be an explaination posted somewhere on how a frequency modulator can change a pre-determined, RPM based timing map programmed into the igniter.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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It has finaly happened the truth about the modules. 28* is still 28* no matter who helps to get it there whether it is DG's modules, Nabers, or HL's 28* is still 28* period. Stakk has come out with what is directly true the OEM cdi can only put out 28*. A 2 step or 5 step module is still a module just more little lights looks pretty good. One more thing a module can be made from parts from Radio Shack for $10 and that is going a little high maybe for some lights .....lol. I know I am going to catch some flaque for this but bring it on!!!!

A member said that after purchasing a module and having a key installed the price would have been the same as buying a cdi. IMO a cdi or other ignition is still by far the better deal. A very definable fact is the OEM cdi will decrease the timing after 6500 rpm with dramatic drops after 6800 no matter who's module is attached to it. This has been documented in the past not only by me but by others as well. If DG's module does keep the total timing output till it reachs 8200 then why stop at 28* and add the expense of a key. Go for the gusto and push it to 32* or 33* what ever is recommended. Then the price of just over 100 US would be justified. I have said this many times, Modules are old school I think it is about time to put schematics of a module on the forum then any one could build one. I just bought a used P700 a month ago as my old one sort of fell apart...LOL. The first thing, very first modd to be installed was a new CDI and yes it was Dyna's. I will be receiving my new programable cdi from Ducati very shortly but this will do very nicely till then.

Newbeatle,
Well done with your testing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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Welcome back to forum land Gary.........[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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Howdy alltoys,
glad to see you back on the sites. You are being pretty harsh on the modules. Not all of us can afford blowers, nitrous, and things of that nature. You could give me the entire contents of a Radio Shack and I could not make a module. You seem to forget that some of us dont have your abilities. For the financially and technically challenged, the modules are a pretty good deal. You can take quadding to a higher technical level than most of us and I admire you. I guess I will happily muddle around in the lower rung of the performance ladder and still enjoy my module. Have a goodun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by: KawiTuner
Don at DGR told me that the DG3 makes the timing go to 28* and stay there until 8450 rpms.


Similiar to the curve 4 the V
If the DG3 removes the top end retard and hold's the CDI's max timing of 28 degree's all the way to the rev-limit then this module is a Holeshot and Unlimiter hybrid together....Don mentioned an unlimiter in the past that would require the Holeshot and Unlimiter to be used together.......sound's like this module is both?

 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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At the risk of sounding repetitious: how does the DG3 force the factory CDI to ignore it's high speed/high RPM programming?
 
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