I need some opinions on a good quad for my doughter. I have narrowed it down to the lt 80 and the e ton viper 90. I like the fact the 90 has disk rear brakes. I would like to know which one is faster stock and what you think of these two quads. She has ridden before just hasn't had her own. Thanks

 

The LT-80 is a great bike, EXCEPT when you have to change the air filter!! It's an auto, so no engine braking either. Not acceptable in my book! The little LT doesn't have a hand brake lever for the rear. Kids can't modulate brakes (especially foot brakes) very well (neither can adults!). They desperately need the security of good engine braking.

Can't comment on the other bike. Never owned one.

Don't overlook the Honda 90!!!!!! It's the only bike I can recommend.

 

I think you and your daughter would be happy with either brand. My boys have a lt and a honda. But a friends daughter has a viper, As far as which is fastest in stock form well i would have to say the lt because of the air box and exhaust. The viper until here lately was just a yard bike they have just started racing shes doing great on it and holding her on, the only problem they are having is the exhaust is starting to come apart. Just try to remember none of these minis are problem free and if someone tells you other wise they are full on it.

 

I have a nine year old too, she has two 2003 LT 80's one for racing and one for practicing she loves them and the foot brake pedal dont take long to adapt to! As far as the filter on the LT after you change it once or twice it is a piece of cake! My buddys 20 year old gf put one of my daughters LT 80 s in the pond and just changed the oil after put it upside down to pump the water out and it was fine! You wont steer wrong of the LT 80. If any ?'s feel free to ask? melrinner684@msn.com

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I too loved the LT80 until I did my research and looked into the Kasea's. For the money they are an excellent quad. They have the
stronger front end of the LT80 but instead of the all-in-one swingarm of the LT80 (it uses the tranny as the swingarm) the kasea has
an adult quad type swingarm, extremely durable and strong. There are a ton of aftermarket parts for both the LT and the Kasea. It
is just sad that Suzuki has chosen not to update their little machine. The newest issue of DirtWheels has the 2004 buyers guide in it, pick
it up and take a look. I like the E-Ton also but the Kasea seems to be just a little bit better built. I'm not into ATV's as my career so I am
giving you an unbiased reply, IMO. I would check out the Kasea 90 before you buy. Brian

 

Do the e ton and the kasea use the same engine?

 

I would also take into consideration if you have a local dealer to depend on too! That always nice too!

 

Here's a post from another forum on the Kasea 90. Thanks to Raptor720 for putting all the info together.

Currently 50 and 90cc atv's are marketed by Suzuki, Eton, Polaris (Aeon), Aeon (Alpha Sports), Sundiro, T-Rex (Dinli), Jehm, Kasea (Standard Motors), Bombardier (Jehm), Husky, Extreme Machine, Artic Cat, Yerf Dog, Manco, Dinli Helix (has an untested reverse feature), LEM and other manufacturers. Of the many atv manufacturers, Kasea offers features that go beyond the;other guys; Virtually all of the youth atvs are equipped with fully automatic CVT transmissions (except the Suzuki 50 and LEM 50) and a 2 stroke oil injected engine, the features that make Kasea superior to other youth atvs begin here:

Front suspension
The Kasea front suspension is much stronger than the Eton, Polaris, Aeon (Alpha Sports), Sundiro, T-Rex, Jehm, Bombardier, Husky, Blazer, Extreme Machine, Artic Cat, Yerf Dog, Manco, Dinli Helix, LEM and some other manufacturers. The Kasea uses a double clevis style knuckle holder rather than the more common single holder. We believe that only Suzuki LT80 uses the same strong design as Kasea on the front suspension a-arms.

Rear suspension
The Kasea has the strongest youth atv rear swing arm and axle design on the market. It is a copy of the trusted design used by Yamaha on their performance atvs since the early 1980's. No other youth atv has this strong of a rear suspension; it is simply the best. Many of the other youth atvs don't even offer a true sport atv style rear axle. We have found most youth atvs have a rear axle that is a thin metal shaft covered with tubing. Not only is the tube covered design weaker, it allows water to easily enter the carrier bearing area. Other youth atvs such as the Suzuki LT-80, LT50 and one Eton atv model do not even use a traditional rear swing arm. The LT80 and the one Eton model made the engine and transmission serve as the rear swing arm. The Suzuki LT80 and Eton design causes handling problems and is very difficult to modify for increased performance. On the older Polaris models and a few other models, the rear swing arm, although slightly longer, is too weak to be considered adequate.

Shock absorbers
Kasea built their atvs with true rebound and compression dampening Showa shocks that also feature compression preload spring adjusters. The only other youth atv that we have found that has a similar rear shock is Bombardier. Not even Suzuki has a good rear shock. This is a very important safety feature that is often overlooked. When the Kasea is ridden over a large sudden bump, the rebound dampening helps prevent the atv from bucking forward as the shock returns to its normal height. Compression dampening helps keep the shock from "packing" down.

Braking system
Kasea offers a traditional rear foot brake in addition to the front hand brake. This will allow your young rider to learn the proper use of hand and foot controls so he/she will be ready to advance to a full size atv with a manual clutch without relearning their riding technique. Some models such as the Blazer and Bombardier use full size levers that are hard for little hands to properly grip. The Suzuki 50 models do not even offer front brakes!! We will point out that the T-Rex, Manco, Sundiro and Yerf Dog have a rear disc brake but we feel that the drum brake in the youth market is sufficient for even racing needs.

Optional lighting
We believe that only the Kasea is equipped with a 80+ watt lighting coil and is pre-wired for lighting from the factory. All you need to do is purchase the Kasea lighting set that is found as standard equipment on the Kasea 150 atv or simply mount your own lights to the existing wiring. The key switch uses a third position to turn on the lights. Kasea even pre wired for a rear safety light and lighting for your whip antenna. No other youth atv on the market has this much lighting capability. If you want to add lighting to the Suzuki LT80, you will need a special electrical stator and wiring at a substantial cost. LT80 lighting kits that run off the battery only will result in a dead battery and a long walk home. The Suzuki 50 models cannot accept lighting.

Starting
Kasea, like most other youth atvs, offers electric starting with a manual back up kick starter and a fully automatic choke. Kasea studied the other atvs and took the ease of starting one step further. They added an automatic fuel valve. When the engine starts, the fuel is automatically turned on. When the engine stops, the fuel is automatically shut off. In comparison, the Suzuki and LEM models have manual chokes and all other youth atvs have manual fuel valves. We also note that if you want to add a manual back up starter to the Suzuki, it is a pull rope recoil starter that will cost an additional $80. In the unlikely event that you ever need a replacement electric starter for the Kasea, it will cost about $50 and can be installed in 5 minutes. The Suzuki starter costs about $250 and will require 3 hours of labor to complete the installation. The Suzuki 50 models only have pull rope starters that are difficult at best for young riders to operate.

Rim sizes
Here, you can easily install replacement rims of your choice! The front hubs use the common 4/110 bolt pattern (Honda rear and Blaster front) and the rear uses the common 4/100 bolt pattern (Blaster).

General Parts
Since most of the youth atv engines are similar, finding parts is usually not a problem. If you need gaskets, air filters, batteries, spark plugs, chain, tires or some basic engine components, Eton, Polaris, Aeon (Alpha Sports), Sundiro, T-Rex, Jehm, Kasea, Bombardier, Husky, Blazer, Extreme Machine, Artic Cat, Yerf Dog, Manco, Dinli Helix, will interchange. The Blazer, T-Rex, Bombardier, Yerf Dog, Manico and Polaris have a longer drive belt and side case cover though.

General Notes
The Kasea is one of the few youth atvs that does not provide a full floor board for the youth riders feet. We have studied this issue and believe that the floorboard design may not be as good as claimed. In the event that the riders foot gets wet or the board gets wet or covered with debris, it becomes a slippery dangerous platform. Kasea uses foot pegs just like a traditional atv. To improve any youth atv, we suggest that a good nerf bar with foot pegs and narrow spaced nets be added. I offer nerf bar packages for most youth atv models.

Speed
Kasea voluntarily follows the maximum speed limit recommendations of the Consumer Products Safety Commission. You may find other brands of youth atvs offered for sale that are out of the box faster than the Kasea; however, those atvs most likely do not comply with the CPSC regulations. For a new rider, there is no need for the extra speed out of the box. When their skills improve, the Kasea is the one to build.

Performance
From an aftermarket standpoint, I have the performance modifications for your youth atv. As your child grows, so will his/her ability to control more power. Instead of placing your child on a larger atv that can be dangerous for a younger rider to properly control, modifying a youth atv will provide the challenge that your child desires. I have replacement large bore cylinders, ported cylinders, custom billet aluminum cylinder heads, special over range transmissions, custom exhaust systems, performance carburetors, performance reeds, lighting kits, ignition systems, extended swing arms, wider a-arms, shock absorber kits and various tire and rim options. A special 4130 alloy frame is also in the works!

Like I said, all credit for this post goes to Raptor720. This will be the next quad I buy.

 

I've been looking around and I like wither the lpha Kolt 90, or cobra 90. They are as good as any of the other ones, but look much better.