What is really going on in Michigan
#191
When 5343 surfaced, there were then, and are now, many options. As the issue of establishing new trail moves along, more will surface. Why would anyone want to take the first offer?
5343 was not the way to go, little doubt in anyone's mind who fully understood the entire issue. Once the ramifications got understood, eveyone, jumped off that legislation. Definately was not good for the sport.
BB, you need to understand this, you claim 5 or 6 years into this, don't know what level you have been involved in other than what we are seeing here and a few trips to Lansing, and some appearances at public meetings. By your comments here, you have only scratched the surface of the knowledge you need to gain, to be affective.
The last conferance call we had with MMRC, 3 people on line had over 30 years legislative experiance, each. Some with 10 or more, others with a few years. Many of these people are highly connected in Lansing. Total experiance in that group went well over 200 years. All agreed we were going the right way for the benefit of the entire sport!
Everyone fully appreciate's your desire to make things better for ORV people. Let me caution you, it is possible, in your passion for improvement, you could say the wrong thing to the right person. Suddenly finding yourself being the biggest "liability" to the sport in decades.
5343 was not the way to go, little doubt in anyone's mind who fully understood the entire issue. Once the ramifications got understood, eveyone, jumped off that legislation. Definately was not good for the sport.
BB, you need to understand this, you claim 5 or 6 years into this, don't know what level you have been involved in other than what we are seeing here and a few trips to Lansing, and some appearances at public meetings. By your comments here, you have only scratched the surface of the knowledge you need to gain, to be affective.
The last conferance call we had with MMRC, 3 people on line had over 30 years legislative experiance, each. Some with 10 or more, others with a few years. Many of these people are highly connected in Lansing. Total experiance in that group went well over 200 years. All agreed we were going the right way for the benefit of the entire sport!
Everyone fully appreciate's your desire to make things better for ORV people. Let me caution you, it is possible, in your passion for improvement, you could say the wrong thing to the right person. Suddenly finding yourself being the biggest "liability" to the sport in decades.
#192
Mr. M4Life or whatever curtain you hide behind,
Well said, you are in fact the garbage that I have set out on the curb for years. By the way, are you related to GILBERT GRAPE??? Speaking of " capes" was that you riding down the main street of Burton last night on your quad sporting a set of antlers and wearing a yellow chifon dress with black high heels???? people say this is a yearly holiday fetish you perform. Must have been a cold ride with the wind blowing up your dress.... Ha Ha Ha...
Well said, you are in fact the garbage that I have set out on the curb for years. By the way, are you related to GILBERT GRAPE??? Speaking of " capes" was that you riding down the main street of Burton last night on your quad sporting a set of antlers and wearing a yellow chifon dress with black high heels???? people say this is a yearly holiday fetish you perform. Must have been a cold ride with the wind blowing up your dress.... Ha Ha Ha...
#194
"Deer" Mr. M4Life,
One can only assume YOU were the phantom rider last night or you would have been up here true to form in a rage that is common to you... I hope you had your bloomers on... Let us all know how the RR fruitcake was. Was there a prize in the center???
One can only assume YOU were the phantom rider last night or you would have been up here true to form in a rage that is common to you... I hope you had your bloomers on... Let us all know how the RR fruitcake was. Was there a prize in the center???
#196
Mr. M4Life,
Relax, You sound like you are getting as nervous as a HOMO in a HOTDOG factory... Come out of the closet and show your gender, and yes you can wear your gander mountain combat boots if that makes you feel like somebody... My father suggested that you call your mother and demand to know who your Daddy really is.... As they say " mama knows" You obviously had a troubled childhood and cross-dressing is just one sign of that.... I'am sorry but I just cannot picture you as a leader of anything but a band of GOOFS because when it comes right down to it, you have NO credentials other than what you in your mind claim" handshakes,letters,ect. Bring up something substantial about yourself from day 1 that could give you credibility other than I have rode quads for a long time. BIG DEAL. Give people something more than a big mouth and store bought combat boots..... I do not think you can or even want to go there because you past does not cut it.....If you want to be a man, BONE UP or get out.
Relax, You sound like you are getting as nervous as a HOMO in a HOTDOG factory... Come out of the closet and show your gender, and yes you can wear your gander mountain combat boots if that makes you feel like somebody... My father suggested that you call your mother and demand to know who your Daddy really is.... As they say " mama knows" You obviously had a troubled childhood and cross-dressing is just one sign of that.... I'am sorry but I just cannot picture you as a leader of anything but a band of GOOFS because when it comes right down to it, you have NO credentials other than what you in your mind claim" handshakes,letters,ect. Bring up something substantial about yourself from day 1 that could give you credibility other than I have rode quads for a long time. BIG DEAL. Give people something more than a big mouth and store bought combat boots..... I do not think you can or even want to go there because you past does not cut it.....If you want to be a man, BONE UP or get out.
#198
I HAVE NO CREDENTIALS?
You are the ONLY one in here EVER questioning my credentials and quite frankly,I dont give a damn what you THINK you know about me. There are far more important issue's that I have to concern myself over than ONE wanna-be from a ATV Forum calling me names.
Go charge up the 12 volt battery in your Barbie Car,the weather is suppose to warm up this week end.It would be a good time to show the neighbors your intelligence.
You are the ONLY one in here EVER questioning my credentials and quite frankly,I dont give a damn what you THINK you know about me. There are far more important issue's that I have to concern myself over than ONE wanna-be from a ATV Forum calling me names.
Go charge up the 12 volt battery in your Barbie Car,the weather is suppose to warm up this week end.It would be a good time to show the neighbors your intelligence.
#199
1TopWop,
BYE, Bye,Bye, " LITTLE WILLIE" I am going to respect the request.. I hope that at the very least they will believe what I have said and CAN back it up with facts if need be. I know you very well and can bet that you will have the last word here because you cannot have closure without the last word....... If you do , I hope they have the stones to reprimand you!!!! With that said, I truely wish EVERYONE a HAPPY HOLIDAY's......
BYE, Bye,Bye, " LITTLE WILLIE" I am going to respect the request.. I hope that at the very least they will believe what I have said and CAN back it up with facts if need be. I know you very well and can bet that you will have the last word here because you cannot have closure without the last word....... If you do , I hope they have the stones to reprimand you!!!! With that said, I truely wish EVERYONE a HAPPY HOLIDAY's......
#200
SUPERMAN,
I was going to leave your last comment alone until you started talking about FACTS.
I shut your *** down on page 5 when you STARTED making false accusations [YOU call them FACTS] of me charging 100 bucks per student and than another 25 bucks for the parent to sit in on their youths classroom. You've made other false 'FACTS' with nothing to back ANY of it up,throughout this entire topic.You tried your tough man tactics in your very first post,than armed yourself as a Lawyer, and as a last resort, you even turned to name calling. All this time,not proving even a single fact.You dont know what it means to have FACTS,you've PROVED this throught this entire topic.
I must say that I personally admire you for understanding when you've FINALLY been defeated and for deciding to leave this topic to the few guys who do know the FACTS. It reminds me of a fighter named Roberto Durand who was getting his *** kicked SO bad,when the bell for the next round, rung,he thru down his gloves and said 'NO MAS'--which means ''NO MORE''
In closing, may you and yours enjoy the Holidays. Thats ALOT more fun/exciting than spending your time in a political ORV forum and pretending you know whats-what.
I was going to leave your last comment alone until you started talking about FACTS.
I shut your *** down on page 5 when you STARTED making false accusations [YOU call them FACTS] of me charging 100 bucks per student and than another 25 bucks for the parent to sit in on their youths classroom. You've made other false 'FACTS' with nothing to back ANY of it up,throughout this entire topic.You tried your tough man tactics in your very first post,than armed yourself as a Lawyer, and as a last resort, you even turned to name calling. All this time,not proving even a single fact.You dont know what it means to have FACTS,you've PROVED this throught this entire topic.
I must say that I personally admire you for understanding when you've FINALLY been defeated and for deciding to leave this topic to the few guys who do know the FACTS. It reminds me of a fighter named Roberto Durand who was getting his *** kicked SO bad,when the bell for the next round, rung,he thru down his gloves and said 'NO MAS'--which means ''NO MORE''
In closing, may you and yours enjoy the Holidays. Thats ALOT more fun/exciting than spending your time in a political ORV forum and pretending you know whats-what.


