Beergut, I don't really like how you discredit everything someone says simply because of their political opinions. You say Noam Chomsky can't possibly be a great linguist, because he's Anarchist. In that vein of thinking, Moose might not be a reasonable and intelligent individual simply because he's a religious man. Obviously I don't think that, a person can be anything, and still be religious; just like a person can be anything and still be an Anarchist/Communist. That form of thinking is flawed, it generalizes.

Perhaps I misspoke but the social studies classes I attended in middle school, I remember better than those I took in high school. High school was mostly global studies, except for Economics, and law and justice... which even then had a broad focus.

Moose, I'll agree with you, it is easier to organize a locality, than it is a country. Local areas should pay for their own services. But that would make it very difficult for economically depressed areas like Detroit to fund city services. So I think a happy medium can be reached on that subject.

I don't think it's good to treat the symptoms, instead of the cause. You can't possibly argue that people are naturally lazy, if that were the case we'd have gone extinct long ago, as life has only gotten easier. So there is something that is making people lazy now. I hope that we can find out what that is, and try to correct that, rather than punishing those who haven't yet found their calling.

You can't know what a money-less society would bring, it has never happened. Extrapolations such as yours have no more or less weight than mine.

Thank you for focusing on the discussion, rather than character assassination. It does mean quite a bit to me.

 

first- I don't discredit everything someone says based on political opinions- never have, never will.
and second- funny you can't see the difference between a religious man who strives to do good, provide for others, follow law and leave's a positive energy on the life around him and in his community.... compared to a imbecile who strives for chaos, negativity and lawlessness... yes- I can discredit chomsky (and anyone else) if (t)he(y) truly believe the world would be a better place under anarchy doctrine-
chomsky believing a village (community) can thrive and be healthy under anarchy is asinine-
It indicates that chomsky had neither the foresight or comprehension to understand exactly who and how anarchy affects a community- AND if he did understand said consequences, but still chose to believe in anarchy... he's even a bigger dunce- I don't care how "brilliant" anyone thinks he is-

chose a better roll model, lolumad.

 

Just listening to this. Not meant to harm anybody. Just enjoying some blues.

 

"I can discredit chomsky (and anyone else) if (t)he(y) truly believe the world would be a better place under anarchy doctrine-"

" I don't discredit everything someone says based on political opinions- never have, never will."

That is a massive contradiction. You said I should believe adults who have
A) Raised a couple of kids
B) Worked a couple of years
C) Is older.

Chomsky is in his '80's, raised kids, and is an accomplished MIT professor. Honestly, how much research have you done into psychology, and economics? For some reason I trust Chomsky's education and experience over your... bashing.

You said you liked to read books, you should consider reading The Most Dangerous Superstition by Larken Rose, and Now and After: The ABC's of Communist Anarchism, By Alexander Berkman.

I think that your refusal to believe anyone from my side of the fence is anything beyond a "Dunce" creates a bit of an impasse. I don't see any way we can meet in the middle if all you're interested in doing is calling names.

"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof" - Christopher Hitchens.

I'm willing to hear your side, will you give me the same?

 

I think we've beat this topic to death to be honest. We'll head on from here, I think. We aren't going to agree with you Lolumad, and it seems you, likewise, aren't going to agree with us.

 

Had an encouraging thought about the election. The Republicans maintained a majority in the House of Representatives. It struck me this morning that the God-inspired Founding Fathers were endowed with wisdom that has maybe given us a slight reprieve from what Obummer might try to do or at least mute it a bit. If you look at an election map that is broken down into how each county voted the map is almost all red except for cities where welfare is rampant or the liberal Northeast. By setting up the House of Reps. the way they did it nullifies, to a degree, the effects of the Presidential Election. More counties voted for Romney than Obummer. This is seen in the Rep. Party holding on to Congress. See: 2012 Presidential Election Results - The Washington Post Click on the county tab to the left of the map. It encouraged me a little bit.

 

Very interesting map. The founding fathers had to foresight to include numerous checks and balances, forcing compromise.

 

No surprise here. Obummer has already stated his desire to sign onto the UN Gun Ban Treaty. I hope Congress rejects it.

Obama endorses UN Arms Trade Treaty: Massive gun control effort underway Independent Journal Review

 

In honor of Obummer getting reelected.

 

"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it." --Thomas Jefferson