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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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Oops I just realized from my last post IA defines RESPONSIBILITES for law officers.

Many of you argue they need to uphold justice by any means necessary and they have no responsibilities because its ALL the suspects fault.

Ridiculous!!!!!
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy
BB your nutz. siding with the huligans. it was their desicion to set the whole spin underway. if you dont run they dont chase and you deal with consequences eitherway. If the police choose to chase they have every right to. If the dumbass crashes and dies, His own dam fault. coulda been avoided if he made a better choice. Sucks he had to make poor descisions and abandon his family like that.
OFC, don’t make me smack you. LOL using your favorite line.

Yes the kid was a fault and should be brought to justice and I do not side with him. I am only arguing the chase should be re-evaluated as 1000's of agencies are doing across the US to ensure safer means are not ignored to bring about justice.

Can anybody tell me where it is smarter to choose a more dangerous path to justice when safer paths may be present.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by: Raptorlegs
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We as parents, are responsible to be positive role models and bring our kids up in a structured environment.

LOL! Whatever man. I had the best role models you can imagine and I raised friggin hell when I was in high school. You can't lock your kids in a closet.
My point, all these perfect kids are kids of parents who snuck around themselves. But all of a sudden it was suddenly bread out and the child has become a perfect being.

 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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This is going way too far, i believe ALL of you have made extremely reasonable points, and this could be argued on and on for a very long time. I for one think it is amazing how inteligent some of these people are on this forum, and that you can argue so well, but this is goin to turn into a fight, and the thread will be locked.

BTW, I went riding on my dad's trike today in a field with a huge empty pond.......LOTS of fun!!!! Its awesome to ride the walls of the pond[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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I know exactly what IA is for,I have friends and family in Law Enforcement...IMO,the only misconduct applied in this situation was from the 15yr old kid when he chose to run instead of stop.

I beleive that in the eyes of the Police at this crime scene,they did what they felt was in the best interest for the violation in question at the time of this incident.Police officers are HUMAN and must often react instantly to differant situations,and sometimes,it might not allways be the best solution to every incident to have the officer pursue someone that is fleeing and eluding,however,I trust an officers decision to PURSUIT the PERP of any fleeing and eluding incident.And I also trust that he will back-off the pursuit if he deems it necessary.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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Oh, I forgot to mention, the pond is full of snow, so I guess its not empty......and when the snow melts.....GIANT MUD HOLE[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by: catchmeifucan
This is going way too far, i believe ALL of you have made extremely reasonable points, and this could be argued on and on for a very long time. I for one think it is amazing how inteligent some of these people are on this forum, and that you can argue so well, but this is goin to turn into a fight, and the thread will be locked.

BTW, I went riding on my dad's trike today in a field with a huge empty pond.......LOTS of fun!!!! Its awesome to ride the walls of the pond[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
You are correct about the back and forth. One thing cannot be ignore is that persons who are actually involved in these chases are already making changes to ensure safety of all. It just a matter of time when the chase will not be as automatic for minor traffic violations and then I will be happy.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
I know exactly what IA is for,I have friends and family in Law Enforcement...IMO,the only misconduct applied in this situation was from the 15yr old kid when he chose to run instead of stop.

I beleive that in the eyes of the Police at this crime scene,they did what they felt was in the best interest for the violation in question at the time of this incident.Police officers are HUMAN and must often react instantly to differant situations,and sometimes,it might not allways be the best solution to every incident to have the officer pursue someone that is fleeing and eluding,however,I trust an officers decision to PURSUIT the PERP of any fleeing and eluding incident.And I also trust that he will back-off the pursuit if he deems it necessary.
Apparently you did not know IA was also for investigation to citizen complaints therefore I though it necessary to defend my statement. Also it is not only for misconduct but use of force. Chasing is a use of force and could, let me stress, could be consider excessive in certain situations

"and sometimes,it might not allways be the best solution "

Thanks for finally admitting it which is what I have been arguing. I have not been arguing if he should be let go but if other options could have been used to eliminate the danger of the chase.

BTW, I have a Deputy Marshal, State Trouper, Deputy Sheriff, Crime Scene Investigator, and Law Enforcement Training Instructor who was once a probation officer that are all close family members.

I forgot to add Lawyer.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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BB i authorize Shoot first ask questions later tactics [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] Law by the gun [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] J/k everyone wants to tie the hand of the law. let the lawman decide how best to do his job. If its to shoot someone SO BEIT seemed to work aww ight in the old west. All I gotta say is Womens Lib was truly the downfall of society.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy
BB i authorize Shoot first ask questions later tactics [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] Law by the gun [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] J/k everyone wants to tie the hand of the law. let the lawman decide how best to do his job. If its to shoot someone SO BEIT seemed to work aww ight in the old west. All I gotta say is Womens Lib was truly the downfall of society.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
OK onefly if we did not question the authority convicted “alleged” criminals would not be getting out of jail today due to new DNA science. I feel Officers hands should be free BUT as a human being making decisions that could be the wrong or inappropriate then their decision must have consequences too or you could not trust the law.
 
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