How many still ride without a helmet?
Apr 11, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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How many still ride without a helmet?
I admit I don't know all the specifics. It is a law in my state to wear a helmet but even if it wasn't I would wear one. You talk about being attacked you are attacking everyone else just as much. So your telling me you can put me down but I can not defend myself. I respect your rights as I have said before you can do as you please. But I will still stick up for what I believe so you have the right to read it or not that is your "right" The more accidents that happen the more of a chance they will take the toys away from us. I know states around us that won't allow our kids to ride because they are to young so that had to happen for some reason. Maybe not a helmet but stupidity none the less.
I am Tracy, Seth's wife and if you read any other post about anything you would know that we both frequent this site and use the same user name sorry to confuse. I said nothing about riding with flags just that we can't ride our bikes with the flag leaning up against it. There are only 2 pics in my profile that don't have helmets that is one and the other one is My youngest son got new plastic and tires for Christmas and he doesn't ride around in my hauler. We want a family pic of something we love doing together. We wanted to be seen. That is why we are sitting on our quads and getting a pic taken. Like I said you can usually tell when a picture is a posed pic.
You can wear your helmet or not but don't tell us it is better than not. That is your opinion just as much as it is ours to wear it. You do what you want that is your Right but there are many people that have that right and then go suing the manufacturer for their stupidity. I am not saying that is you but there are many out there.
I say natural selection I hope you never have an accident and leave your loved ones with out you for something you could have prevented.
My Opinion nothing else. My right to say as I please also.
I am Tracy, Seth's wife and if you read any other post about anything you would know that we both frequent this site and use the same user name sorry to confuse. I said nothing about riding with flags just that we can't ride our bikes with the flag leaning up against it. There are only 2 pics in my profile that don't have helmets that is one and the other one is My youngest son got new plastic and tires for Christmas and he doesn't ride around in my hauler. We want a family pic of something we love doing together. We wanted to be seen. That is why we are sitting on our quads and getting a pic taken. Like I said you can usually tell when a picture is a posed pic.
You can wear your helmet or not but don't tell us it is better than not. That is your opinion just as much as it is ours to wear it. You do what you want that is your Right but there are many people that have that right and then go suing the manufacturer for their stupidity. I am not saying that is you but there are many out there.
I say natural selection I hope you never have an accident and leave your loved ones with out you for something you could have prevented.
My Opinion nothing else. My right to say as I please also.
Apr 11, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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How many still ride without a helmet?
And just FYI I can see and hear everything around me when I am riding. Including my kids when they are on their bikes riding next to me. I don't think that is a good excuse but you can use what you want. It is your "Right".
And my helmets have washable inner liners I wash all the time. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
They also have air circulation which actually really helps in keeping our heads cool.
They make very light helmets now a days.
And I don't really think that you necessarily have a better chance of a neck injury because you are wearing a helmet but in some instances I can see that. You could always were a neck restraint too.
And my helmets have washable inner liners I wash all the time. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
They also have air circulation which actually really helps in keeping our heads cool.
They make very light helmets now a days.
And I don't really think that you necessarily have a better chance of a neck injury because you are wearing a helmet but in some instances I can see that. You could always were a neck restraint too.
Apr 11, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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How many still ride without a helmet?
JustRandy your a piece of work man! LOL It's people like you that get Stupid laws made and gives us all a bad name. I couldn't agree more with the other guys on this subject. Sure it's your choice and if you want to do it, good for you. It just shows your not using that thing your NOT protecting anyways. And please stop trying to give good reasons for NOT wear a helmet, there are NONE! Well if I judge this by what you have on your photo page you won't be going fast enough to need a helmet anyway so your logic kind of works there. Good luck! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] And stop attacking people because they disagree with you, you're being kind of a hypocrite. Also that website you sited is a crock, a one sided site. Try to cite a more credible Website.
Apr 11, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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How many still ride without a helmet?
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: cynick
You talk about being attacked you are attacking everyone else just as much. So your telling me you can put me down but I can not defend myself. </end quote></div>
You attacked me first, then I commented and then added another comment reflecting my frustration from an apparent hypocritical stance (mostly due to a past encouter with either you or Seth,,, I'm not sure which). Read back over the thread n see.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I respect your rights as I have said before you can do as you please.</end quote></div>
Yes, but can I do as I please with your blessing (or at least you not thinking I'm stupid or something.... Clearly I'm not stupid.)?
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>But I will still stick up for what I believe so you have the right to read it or not that is your "right"</end quote></div>
You should stick to your guns, that's the American way. Of course I will read it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>The more accidents that happen the more of a chance they will take the toys away from us.</end quote></div>
That's a valid point. Therefore, I submit we take down all the photos of anyone jumping or otherwise riding recklessly on this forum. We don't want the kids to think "it looks cool" or something. Furthermore, we should make it against the law to jump more than a certain amount off the ground or perform any stunts without proper equipment, training, and personel on hand to treat injuries. Since anyone can be injured with or without a helmet, the helmet is really a mute point. Injuries is all that matters. Therefore, the prevention of injuries should be your main goal. Most injuries come from reckless riding and riding in a manner that is above a skill level. Sound good?
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> I know states around us that won't allow our kids to ride because they are to young so that had to happen for some reason. Maybe not a helmet but stupidity none the less.</end quote></div>
Many states are jumping on the bandwagon of banning kids from atvs. I think the parents should decide. But that's another subject. This helmet issue is exhausting enough for one topic, lol.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I am Tracy, Seth's wife and if you read any other post about anything you would know that we both frequent this site and use the same user name sorry to confuse. </end quote></div>
Hi Tracy! I'm Randy. I was thinking you were his wife from the slightly more understanding tone of the writing. I haven't read any posts by your screen name other than the ones in this thread and my previous encounter with, most likely, your husband.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>There are only 2 pics in my profile that don't have helmets that is one and the other one is My youngest son got new plastic and tires for Christmas and he doesn't ride around in my hauler. We want a family pic of something we love doing together. We wanted to be seen. That is why we are sitting on our quads and getting a pic taken. Like I said you can usually tell when a picture is a posed pic.</end quote></div>
Nice looking family. You're right to be proud. It can be argued, though, that it appears you guys were either getting set to ride, or were just finished riding.... And since no helmets are seen..... You get the point. It doesn't matter to me anymore because we are talking nicely and whether or not you guys wear a helmet wouldn't offend me anyway.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>You can wear your helmet or not but don't tell us it is better than not. That is your opinion just as much as it is ours to wear it. </end quote></div>
I don't know if it is better or not.... I'm just saying its not ENOUGH better to make me want to wear it. But as I said before though, I would wear one (and some kind of neck protection) if I was doing something on a quad I was scared of. Like jumping really high or going entirely too fast on a curvy trail or something or that nature. If I feel scared, of course I would want protection. But most of the time I just want to cruise along and not be reckless.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>You do what you want that is your Right but there are many people that have that right and then go suing the manufacturer for their stupidity. I am not saying that is you but there are many out there. </end quote></div>
Hmmm.... But it says right on the atv to wear a helmet. How can they win the suit? How would a helmet law even help? Just because there is a law, doesn't mean everybody will obey it. Even if it didn't say, I still wouldn't sue. I would never have thought of it. I'm still trying to figure out how a guy won a suit saying it wasn't clear he shouldn't stick his fingers under a running lawnmower when he picked it up to trim his bushes and cut off his fingers! That suit resulted in that silly lever we have to hold to keep the mower running (that everybody usually just tapes down).
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I say natural selection I hope you never have an accident and leave your loved ones with out you for something you could have prevented.</end quote></div>
See, I still sense a little hostility there (sounds like "weed out the stupid"). Nevertheless, that statement sounds ok.
Ok, back on the soapbox. While we're on the subject of injuries and preventing them, how come nobody wears a helmet in their car? Auto accidents account for more death each year than all the deaths on all atvs ever! (or darn close to it). race car drivers wear helmets, so obviously helmets do offer some protection in cars. If everyone is so concerned about safety, I think they should be concentrating on the bigger part of the damage.
Another thought along those lines is stairs. If you are going to be injured in some way, the odds are it will involve a stairway somewhere. Would you wear a helmet to walk up or down the stairs? That would be silly. However, you are FAR more likely to get hurt on the stairs than you are on your atv. I don't see anyone calling for a ban on stairs! Why not? Why do they have to pick on atvs when atvs hardly do any damage to society whatsoever when compared to REAL killers like cars, junk food, stairs, etc. Its time we educate ourselves and stand up to people trying to outlaw our sport because I think we can win and have our rights too. The people trying to ban our sport don't even ride atvs. They don't know what they are talking about. All they say is "injuries blah blah blah, kids blah blah, more injuries, bigger quads, alarming rates, yada yada yada." And those in power don't know anything either so they just say "Kids? Injuries? Hmmm... Make public happy, more votes, win next election, cool - no more atvs". Our lives are being affected by people who don't know anything about anything while we sit around doing nothing except buying into the BS.
You talk about being attacked you are attacking everyone else just as much. So your telling me you can put me down but I can not defend myself. </end quote></div>
You attacked me first, then I commented and then added another comment reflecting my frustration from an apparent hypocritical stance (mostly due to a past encouter with either you or Seth,,, I'm not sure which). Read back over the thread n see.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I respect your rights as I have said before you can do as you please.</end quote></div>
Yes, but can I do as I please with your blessing (or at least you not thinking I'm stupid or something.... Clearly I'm not stupid.)?
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>But I will still stick up for what I believe so you have the right to read it or not that is your "right"</end quote></div>
You should stick to your guns, that's the American way. Of course I will read it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>The more accidents that happen the more of a chance they will take the toys away from us.</end quote></div>
That's a valid point. Therefore, I submit we take down all the photos of anyone jumping or otherwise riding recklessly on this forum. We don't want the kids to think "it looks cool" or something. Furthermore, we should make it against the law to jump more than a certain amount off the ground or perform any stunts without proper equipment, training, and personel on hand to treat injuries. Since anyone can be injured with or without a helmet, the helmet is really a mute point. Injuries is all that matters. Therefore, the prevention of injuries should be your main goal. Most injuries come from reckless riding and riding in a manner that is above a skill level. Sound good?
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> I know states around us that won't allow our kids to ride because they are to young so that had to happen for some reason. Maybe not a helmet but stupidity none the less.</end quote></div>
Many states are jumping on the bandwagon of banning kids from atvs. I think the parents should decide. But that's another subject. This helmet issue is exhausting enough for one topic, lol.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I am Tracy, Seth's wife and if you read any other post about anything you would know that we both frequent this site and use the same user name sorry to confuse. </end quote></div>
Hi Tracy! I'm Randy. I was thinking you were his wife from the slightly more understanding tone of the writing. I haven't read any posts by your screen name other than the ones in this thread and my previous encounter with, most likely, your husband.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>There are only 2 pics in my profile that don't have helmets that is one and the other one is My youngest son got new plastic and tires for Christmas and he doesn't ride around in my hauler. We want a family pic of something we love doing together. We wanted to be seen. That is why we are sitting on our quads and getting a pic taken. Like I said you can usually tell when a picture is a posed pic.</end quote></div>
Nice looking family. You're right to be proud. It can be argued, though, that it appears you guys were either getting set to ride, or were just finished riding.... And since no helmets are seen..... You get the point. It doesn't matter to me anymore because we are talking nicely and whether or not you guys wear a helmet wouldn't offend me anyway.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>You can wear your helmet or not but don't tell us it is better than not. That is your opinion just as much as it is ours to wear it. </end quote></div>
I don't know if it is better or not.... I'm just saying its not ENOUGH better to make me want to wear it. But as I said before though, I would wear one (and some kind of neck protection) if I was doing something on a quad I was scared of. Like jumping really high or going entirely too fast on a curvy trail or something or that nature. If I feel scared, of course I would want protection. But most of the time I just want to cruise along and not be reckless.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>You do what you want that is your Right but there are many people that have that right and then go suing the manufacturer for their stupidity. I am not saying that is you but there are many out there. </end quote></div>
Hmmm.... But it says right on the atv to wear a helmet. How can they win the suit? How would a helmet law even help? Just because there is a law, doesn't mean everybody will obey it. Even if it didn't say, I still wouldn't sue. I would never have thought of it. I'm still trying to figure out how a guy won a suit saying it wasn't clear he shouldn't stick his fingers under a running lawnmower when he picked it up to trim his bushes and cut off his fingers! That suit resulted in that silly lever we have to hold to keep the mower running (that everybody usually just tapes down).
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I say natural selection I hope you never have an accident and leave your loved ones with out you for something you could have prevented.</end quote></div>
See, I still sense a little hostility there (sounds like "weed out the stupid"). Nevertheless, that statement sounds ok.
Ok, back on the soapbox. While we're on the subject of injuries and preventing them, how come nobody wears a helmet in their car? Auto accidents account for more death each year than all the deaths on all atvs ever! (or darn close to it). race car drivers wear helmets, so obviously helmets do offer some protection in cars. If everyone is so concerned about safety, I think they should be concentrating on the bigger part of the damage.
Another thought along those lines is stairs. If you are going to be injured in some way, the odds are it will involve a stairway somewhere. Would you wear a helmet to walk up or down the stairs? That would be silly. However, you are FAR more likely to get hurt on the stairs than you are on your atv. I don't see anyone calling for a ban on stairs! Why not? Why do they have to pick on atvs when atvs hardly do any damage to society whatsoever when compared to REAL killers like cars, junk food, stairs, etc. Its time we educate ourselves and stand up to people trying to outlaw our sport because I think we can win and have our rights too. The people trying to ban our sport don't even ride atvs. They don't know what they are talking about. All they say is "injuries blah blah blah, kids blah blah, more injuries, bigger quads, alarming rates, yada yada yada." And those in power don't know anything either so they just say "Kids? Injuries? Hmmm... Make public happy, more votes, win next election, cool - no more atvs". Our lives are being affected by people who don't know anything about anything while we sit around doing nothing except buying into the BS.
Apr 11, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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How many still ride without a helmet?
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: SilverBomb
JustRandy your a piece of work man! LOL It's people like you that get Stupid laws made and gives us all a bad name. I couldn't agree more with the other guys on this subject. Sure it's your choice and if you want to do it, good for you. It just shows your not using that thing your NOT protecting anyways. And please stop trying to give good reasons for NOT wear a helmet, there are NONE! Well if I judge this by what you have on your photo page you won't be going fast enough to need a helmet anyway so your logic kind of works there. Good luck! [img][/img] And stop attacking people because they disagree with you, you're being kind of a hypocrite. Also that website you sited is a crock, a one sided site. Try to cite a more credible Website.</end quote></div>
See???? Here we go with the name calling BS again! I can tell right off the bat you have no idea what you are talking about or you wouldn't have to resort to these tactics.
Ok smart guy, How do people like me get stupid laws made? Please elaborate.
Of course its a one sided website goofball, I posted it to support the claims I was making. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img] Why would I post a pro-helment website to illustrate the benefits of not wearing a helmet? I can tell you're going to be a challenge to argue with, LMAO.
JustRandy your a piece of work man! LOL It's people like you that get Stupid laws made and gives us all a bad name. I couldn't agree more with the other guys on this subject. Sure it's your choice and if you want to do it, good for you. It just shows your not using that thing your NOT protecting anyways. And please stop trying to give good reasons for NOT wear a helmet, there are NONE! Well if I judge this by what you have on your photo page you won't be going fast enough to need a helmet anyway so your logic kind of works there. Good luck! [img][/img] And stop attacking people because they disagree with you, you're being kind of a hypocrite. Also that website you sited is a crock, a one sided site. Try to cite a more credible Website.</end quote></div>
See???? Here we go with the name calling BS again! I can tell right off the bat you have no idea what you are talking about or you wouldn't have to resort to these tactics.
Ok smart guy, How do people like me get stupid laws made? Please elaborate.
Of course its a one sided website goofball, I posted it to support the claims I was making. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img] Why would I post a pro-helment website to illustrate the benefits of not wearing a helmet? I can tell you're going to be a challenge to argue with, LMAO.
Apr 11, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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How many still ride without a helmet?
Government is very strange and some of the laws they make are down right weird.
I ought to know, I work for them!!! LOL.
Case in point. It is against the law for my kids to ride in my car without seat belts. It is a VERY big fine if I were cought not buckling them up.
BUT, every day at 7:30 sharp they hop on a big yellow bus with NO seat belts on. They do not even get a choise to put one on!!!! TALK ABOUT SETTING A BAD EXAMPLE!!!
I have to wear my seat belt when I'm in my convertable. (Visions of me flipping over and grinding along the road with me pinned to the seat keep me awake at night!!!!)
I think JustRandy brings up some very good points. (Some I agree with some I don't.)
Some of you that are criticzing JustRandy need to think about this:
When you get off of the trail or dunes after a days riding; after loading up and tying down your quads and getting into your tow vehicle you need to leave your helmets and riding gear on!!!!
WHY:
#1 Because Trucks go WAY faster than quads at any given time while traveling. (Average for my trail rides is about 10MPH. My truck, about 45MOH to my riding spot.)
#2 There is lots of steel and glass around your melon when in a truck or car.
Even with seat belts on your head is flung around like a cowboy on a bucking bull.
#3 Millions more die in vehicle accidents than in ATV accidents. (A lot of these are head injuries that kill people)
#4 There are many more, but I have to get my taxes done. LMAO
Just something to think about.
I ought to know, I work for them!!! LOL.
Case in point. It is against the law for my kids to ride in my car without seat belts. It is a VERY big fine if I were cought not buckling them up.
BUT, every day at 7:30 sharp they hop on a big yellow bus with NO seat belts on. They do not even get a choise to put one on!!!! TALK ABOUT SETTING A BAD EXAMPLE!!!
I have to wear my seat belt when I'm in my convertable. (Visions of me flipping over and grinding along the road with me pinned to the seat keep me awake at night!!!!)
I think JustRandy brings up some very good points. (Some I agree with some I don't.)
Some of you that are criticzing JustRandy need to think about this:
When you get off of the trail or dunes after a days riding; after loading up and tying down your quads and getting into your tow vehicle you need to leave your helmets and riding gear on!!!!
WHY:
#1 Because Trucks go WAY faster than quads at any given time while traveling. (Average for my trail rides is about 10MPH. My truck, about 45MOH to my riding spot.)
#2 There is lots of steel and glass around your melon when in a truck or car.
Even with seat belts on your head is flung around like a cowboy on a bucking bull.
#3 Millions more die in vehicle accidents than in ATV accidents. (A lot of these are head injuries that kill people)
#4 There are many more, but I have to get my taxes done. LMAO
Just something to think about.
Apr 11, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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How many still ride without a helmet?
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: cynick
And just FYI I can see and hear everything around me when I am riding. Including my kids when they are on their bikes riding next to me. I don't think that is a good excuse but you can use what you want. It is your "Right".</end quote></div>
Your ability to hear approaching traffic is hampered. To what degree I can't say for sure, but it is, by definition, hampered. Everything sounds muffled to me when I wear one.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And my helmets have washable inner liners I wash all the time. [img][/img]</end quote></div>
True, but you need a washing machine with you out on the trail to wash it, lol.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>They also have air circulation which actually really helps in keeping our heads cool.</end quote></div>
Yeah, I know about those.... Not a big fan.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>They make very light helmets now a days.</end quote></div>
Not as light as nothing. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I don't really think that you necessarily have a better chance of a neck injury because you are wearing a helmet but in some instances I can see that. You could always were a neck restraint too.</end quote></div>
I don't know. Who knows? Nobody will fund a study (hmmm.... wonder why.... couldn't be the helmet companies protecting their profits???? Nah, not in this country).
And just FYI I can see and hear everything around me when I am riding. Including my kids when they are on their bikes riding next to me. I don't think that is a good excuse but you can use what you want. It is your "Right".</end quote></div>
Your ability to hear approaching traffic is hampered. To what degree I can't say for sure, but it is, by definition, hampered. Everything sounds muffled to me when I wear one.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And my helmets have washable inner liners I wash all the time. [img][/img]</end quote></div>
True, but you need a washing machine with you out on the trail to wash it, lol.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>They also have air circulation which actually really helps in keeping our heads cool.</end quote></div>
Yeah, I know about those.... Not a big fan.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>They make very light helmets now a days.</end quote></div>
Not as light as nothing. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I don't really think that you necessarily have a better chance of a neck injury because you are wearing a helmet but in some instances I can see that. You could always were a neck restraint too.</end quote></div>
I don't know. Who knows? Nobody will fund a study (hmmm.... wonder why.... couldn't be the helmet companies protecting their profits???? Nah, not in this country).
Apr 11, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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How many still ride without a helmet?
Hey! There IS intelligent life here. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] (No offense Tracy, not directed to you. Everybody else, you know who you are. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img] ).
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Doctorturbo
Case in point. It is against the law for my kids to ride in my car without seat belts. It is a VERY big fine if I were cought not buckling them up.
BUT, every day at 7:30 sharp they hop on a big yellow bus with NO seat belts on. They do not even get a choise to put one on!!!! TALK ABOUT SETTING A BAD EXAMPLE!!! </end quote></div>
Good point! And to beat it all I was personally a witness to 3 school buses in MAJOR accidents in the last 2 yrs. 2 of them were on their sides! WTF? I can't recall any atv accidents nearly that bad in my lifetime.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I have to wear my seat belt when I'm in my convertable. (Visions of me flipping over and grinding along the road with me pinned to the seat keep me awake at night!!!!)</end quote></div>
Yes, good call.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I think JustRandy brings up some very good points. (Some I agree with some I don't.)</end quote></div>
What planet are you from again? lol
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Some of you that are criticzing JustRandy need to think about this:</end quote></div>
You can just call me Randy (easier to type). That's all the SN means, just Randy.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>When you get off of the trail or dunes after a days riding; after loading up and tying down your quads and getting into your tow vehicle you need to leave your helmets and riding gear on!!!!
WHY:
#1 Because Trucks go WAY faster than quads at any given time while traveling. (Average for my trail rides is about 10MPH. My truck, about 45MOH to my riding spot.)</end quote></div>
Looks like a point to me.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>#2 There is lots of steel and glass around your melon when in a truck or car.
Even with seat belts on your head is flung around like a cowboy on a bucking bull.</end quote></div>
Tell me about it! The truck is a rougher ride than the quad was. And going slow almost never smoothes the ride out any.... except maybe granny gear.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>#3 Millions more die in vehicle accidents than in ATV accidents. (A lot of these are head injuries that kill people)</end quote></div>
Yeah, I was saying that earlier. I studied the death rates at the CDC and you're more likely to die from a car or stairs until you're 65, then heart disease takes over.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>#4 There are many more, but I have to get my taxes done. LMAO</end quote></div>
I think I finished mine last night... I think, lol.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Just something to think about.</end quote></div>
I appreciate somebody coming to bat for me. I can't believe my world is so polarized..... Everybody on this forum wears helmets and is all about safety, but everybody in real life don't give a rat's behind. I go riding on a saturday in the mountains, maybe 10% have helmets (if that) and most of them are the bikers who are always in full gear. Its not uncommon at all to find a guy with no shirt or helmet and his girlfriend (also no helmet) hanging off the back riding thru the trails. I guess that's what makes Georgia Georgia. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Doctorturbo
Case in point. It is against the law for my kids to ride in my car without seat belts. It is a VERY big fine if I were cought not buckling them up.
BUT, every day at 7:30 sharp they hop on a big yellow bus with NO seat belts on. They do not even get a choise to put one on!!!! TALK ABOUT SETTING A BAD EXAMPLE!!! </end quote></div>
Good point! And to beat it all I was personally a witness to 3 school buses in MAJOR accidents in the last 2 yrs. 2 of them were on their sides! WTF? I can't recall any atv accidents nearly that bad in my lifetime.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I have to wear my seat belt when I'm in my convertable. (Visions of me flipping over and grinding along the road with me pinned to the seat keep me awake at night!!!!)</end quote></div>
Yes, good call.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I think JustRandy brings up some very good points. (Some I agree with some I don't.)</end quote></div>
What planet are you from again? lol
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Some of you that are criticzing JustRandy need to think about this:</end quote></div>
You can just call me Randy (easier to type). That's all the SN means, just Randy.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>When you get off of the trail or dunes after a days riding; after loading up and tying down your quads and getting into your tow vehicle you need to leave your helmets and riding gear on!!!!
WHY:
#1 Because Trucks go WAY faster than quads at any given time while traveling. (Average for my trail rides is about 10MPH. My truck, about 45MOH to my riding spot.)</end quote></div>
Looks like a point to me.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>#2 There is lots of steel and glass around your melon when in a truck or car.
Even with seat belts on your head is flung around like a cowboy on a bucking bull.</end quote></div>
Tell me about it! The truck is a rougher ride than the quad was. And going slow almost never smoothes the ride out any.... except maybe granny gear.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>#3 Millions more die in vehicle accidents than in ATV accidents. (A lot of these are head injuries that kill people)</end quote></div>
Yeah, I was saying that earlier. I studied the death rates at the CDC and you're more likely to die from a car or stairs until you're 65, then heart disease takes over.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>#4 There are many more, but I have to get my taxes done. LMAO</end quote></div>
I think I finished mine last night... I think, lol.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Just something to think about.</end quote></div>
I appreciate somebody coming to bat for me. I can't believe my world is so polarized..... Everybody on this forum wears helmets and is all about safety, but everybody in real life don't give a rat's behind. I go riding on a saturday in the mountains, maybe 10% have helmets (if that) and most of them are the bikers who are always in full gear. Its not uncommon at all to find a guy with no shirt or helmet and his girlfriend (also no helmet) hanging off the back riding thru the trails. I guess that's what makes Georgia Georgia. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Apr 11, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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How many still ride without a helmet?
I agree you bring up good points but so do a lot of us Pro helmet people. I am glad you admit if you were gonna ride fast or do any stunts you would wear a helmet and neck restraint.
Wearing a helmet in a car I hope not but I get the point there also.
By the way you have always been talking to me. I am sorry if I come across as a little belittling sometimes I am not trying to. Just trying to understand the way you think.
We all have opinions and you know what they say about them. We will never agree on this but it is nice to meet you. Hope you are around for a long time to keep us all thinking.
I will be around to keep you thinkin too. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Wearing a helmet in a car I hope not but I get the point there also.
By the way you have always been talking to me. I am sorry if I come across as a little belittling sometimes I am not trying to. Just trying to understand the way you think.
We all have opinions and you know what they say about them. We will never agree on this but it is nice to meet you. Hope you are around for a long time to keep us all thinking.
I will be around to keep you thinkin too. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]