its been said before, but just in case you missed it ill reiterate for ya. A 2-stroke can have just as much grunt and torque as a 4-stroke IF you build it that way, I.E. intake system, pipe, ect.

 

So what do you suggest man?

Everybody buy a 2 stroke and trade their 4 stroke quads in to the dealer?
Will that make you happy?

 

Ok sure. If I were to cruse up a hill at a 1\4 throttle and then crack it wide open. I would be laying on my back with my bike on top of me. I think the same goes for dabeachman. Not to start an arguement thare's 2 bikes that will do it rite there, and I know of a lot more so you might want to retract that statement. On the other hand you do have a nice 4-stroke.

 

Hey..
I've been toasted by PLENTY of banshees going uphill in the sand...Like beechman said, you can give a 2-stroke torque if you build right..

..and come to think of it, the first race I ever did on my YFZ was going uphill against a banshee...I wheelied right over [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] lol that would be my fault though...

 

i think you were being a little childish with that response mike. I believe i was being rather serious and sincere. But yes, if 50% of you quacks traded in your annoying *** 4-strokes for 2-strokes that would make me very happy. Furthermore, why would anybody in their right mind go up a large hill at 1/4 throttle then just decide to wing it. But i guess thats what most of you guys get 4-strokes for...1/4 throttle racing! LMAO

 

lol, ouch that was brutal.

 

Just trying to keep the mentality of this thread going...

I'll trade in my 4 stroke as soon as they come out with a 2 stroke quad that has electric start, reverse, goes faster, and gets better gas milage than mine.

 

Mike You said it all except one thing..... stock for stock there's not a 2-stroke alive that can out perform, out handle my DS. Don't bother spouting off about the LT500r as I said alive. That's like talking about the T-rex it still don't scare me. And for you banshee junkies yes I grant you they are fast, but lets have you run against one of the monster 4-strokes with the same amount of mods. The turbo DS is out there waiting to make you a believer too. We all acknowledge what the 2-stroke was in its hayday, but its day is over. Long live the 4-stroke !
and for you lt500abuser I have $47.50 in mods on my DS and there is not a quad around that can get near me. I have raced banshees with a few mods both new 450's and although it's the 500's little brother even when it was completely stock I routinely wasted a lt250r that is piped jetted, reeds, reed cage, bored 30 over, high comp piston, shaved head, re-geared, and the whole bit. The only good thing about racing 2-strokes is that when I slow down they can make sure to tell me if my break light still works.

 

Wow, wasted an lt250. That's awesome! A stock DS is nice, but they are not all that. A stock 87 lt500 would have sucked your DS right throught the carb and spit it out the tailpipe. Didnt know they made high compression pistons for the 2-strokes.LOL. Ever heard the term "squish"? Know what it means?

 

It's termed "Compression Ratio" and is usually accompanied by the terms "Quench Area", "Static Compression" and "Dynamic Compression".