Much better, but just doesn't seem as responsive for the first 20 ft. from a dead stop as the stock secondary with the HC gray spring. I think I'll be trying the next Team spring, 120-185.

 

oleman do you know the rate of the gray spring?

 

Its 75-110 for the gray Heelclicker spring.

 

Like sp70003 said, but bear in mind that was with the stock secondary, not the team unit. Would 75-110 be an increase in the stock spring rate of the original (non-Team) secondary? That's one thing I don't know, is whether the HC secondary has a higher spring rate than the stock spring.

 

That is why I asked what the rate was, of course the service manual doesn't give a rate just a color of a white/yellow for that quad so I'm going to have to dig a little deeper on that one. Olman do you still have the stk. tires on your quad? Correct mef I'm wrong but you are saying that the stk. sec. with a hc gray sec. and hc primary set-up is pulling harder for the first 20 ft than the team secondary with the same primary set-up? Are you going by seat of the pants or are you on radar how are you testing this?

 

I suspect the HC grey is going to be a higher rate than the stock secondary spring and the reason I want to experiment with the Team 120-185. It may be that with the heavier clutch weight it needs a heavier secondary spring. Tires are 25", but the rear is 11" wide instead of 10" and they are radials.

Essentially yes, although, I am not using the HC primary spring in either circumstance, but an EPI spring that's more suitable for my rpm. It is seat-of-the-pants. After the first 20 ft., there is no comparison with the Team unit. I suspect the 105-165 spring is letting it shift out quicker on initial take off than my old setup. RPM out of the hole when you nail it from a dead stop, and I'm not talking about engagement rpm, is lower with the Team and the 105-165 than with the HC spring in the stock secondary. It's as if it takes some amount of distance before rpm get into the torque band. It was in the torque band right off the line with the modified stock secondary. The condition was much worse with the 85-115 spring and that's why I'm thinking the heavier spring may reslove this issue. What are your thoughts, Speedguy?

And don't get me wrong, the 105-165 could very well be the best setup for the stock primary. I'm not faulting you guys, you're going by Team's recommendation. I think it needs some more tweaking on my end.

Lawnboy, I didn't mean to highjack your thread. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

Ok sounds good its cool when guys do there own testing and set-up on there quad I think we need more of it I havn't rode your quad and as we know everyone of them tends to be a little bit different, but what ever feels the best for you should be on your quad. Becarfull too if you are not upshifting fast enough your quad may sound fast because the rpms will raise quicker but you wil be accelerating slower.

 

Good point. I'll use my stopwatch to verify I'm make improvements.

 

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