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Why cant I beat the 250R?

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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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Well even that is up for debate. the two stroke may make more power up top, but the 4stroke could have a better low end, which would cause ti to accelerate just as quick.

its hard to say, and even harder to prove. You'll never get two bikes set up the same to find out..so we'll just leave it alone [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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with $8000 i'd go for the new Gas-Gas Wild HP 300, if you haven't heard of it, its a new production 2 stroke made for racing and would surely give your dads 250r a serious rival to contend with. Here's some pics and specs
 
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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HEY..... First of all we don't even know how old this kid is!! He may be alittle too young for the big guns.
If he's got 8 grand saved up he should think of getting a TRX 90 and put a serious hop up kit into it and
blow everyone's mind, he's still gonna have money left over to get chick or 2!!!!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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i think u got that low end and top end thing mixed up. low end is torque, not acceleration. top end is top rpm power, not top speed. but if thats not what u ment then sorry. low end wont cause quick acceleration because ur never in the lower rpms in a drag race. im glad u agree with me,because two exact quads only ones a 2 and ones a 4 stroke would be close. case closed
 
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 06:31 AM
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Ummm.....you telling me?

how you gonna say low end isnt acceleration? If i got more low end torque then you then im gonna pull out of the hole quicker. Torque is all about aceleration! Two cars, equal weight, equal HP, but one had more torque, guess whos gonna win? Torque is what you feel. I'd take a car that had 450 ft/lbs and 300hp over a car that had 350hp & 350 ft/lbs any day!

Top end is about top speed. If i've got teh HP to keep pulling up top of course im gonna have a higher top speed then somone who cant pull they're 5th gear. Same reason why i want to have all that low end torque...your racing and BAMN, you click in the 5th...bike one has enough torque to pull that 5th gear all the way to redline, however bike two doesnt...they cant get the rpms up high enough cause they dont have hte power.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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Default Why cant I beat the 250R?

Originally posted by: Scotts88
Well even that is up for debate. the two stroke may make more power up top, but the 4stroke could have a better low end, which would cause ti to accelerate just as quick.

its hard to say, and even harder to prove. You'll never get two bikes set up the same to find out..so we'll just leave it alone [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
i dont know of too many 4 stroke and 2 strokes that make similiar power and the exact same gearing. gearing=torque multiplier. same reason why my bike makes NO torque, but has a close ratio 6 speed that embarasses 4 strokes with a lot more torque than my bike all the time.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 10:53 PM
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maybe low end torque gets u out of the hole on an automatic,but ur never in lower rpms in a drag race. rev it up,dump the clutch and ur gonna tell me ur not past low end?
 
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 01:30 AM
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make ur dad ride the 300 and u take the 250 i think the odds will be opposite.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 02:07 AM
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Default Why cant I beat the 250R?

I am not trying to start another argument, but in dirtwheels it was saying something about 2 strokes have a hard time beating crf450 and yzf450 powered quads.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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ok dude the 450's will beat stock 250R's. but i have one with a 330 kit in it and i will get about half a bike link on a 450. but one of ma friends got an R wit a 350 kit in it and he steadly pulls away from the 450's.
 
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