LTF4WDX King Quad - Revs great - but slow to move
#1
I have a '94 LTF4WDX King Quad 300 with 360 actual miles on it. I'm in Michigan and it is butt-freezing cold now. However, the quad starts first try every time.
The issue is that in High/2WD I really have to gun it to get it moving. I'd think "clutch", but when it gets warmed up the problem pretty much goes away. I have a plow and it warms up fairly quickly in Low/4WD. But I don't know why this happens. It rev's great. Gears switch nicely. But even in 2nd, 3rd & 4th - when it's cold - it revs quite a bit before it moves - like it's sluggish.
Another issue that has me confused. Something is condensing on the bottom of the air intake tube - the white tube that runs from right in front of the gas tank back to the air filter. This condensation will build up and drip on the engine - enough to cause a bit of smoke here and there. It seems like it's the consistency of oil - but I don't know how it's getting there. I took the neighborhood kids on a Halloween Hay Ride - and pulling all that weight at a constant fairly low speed caused a significant buildup. Enough dropped onto the engine that there was actually a small fire.
I'd really appreciate any help with these two problems. Thanks!
The issue is that in High/2WD I really have to gun it to get it moving. I'd think "clutch", but when it gets warmed up the problem pretty much goes away. I have a plow and it warms up fairly quickly in Low/4WD. But I don't know why this happens. It rev's great. Gears switch nicely. But even in 2nd, 3rd & 4th - when it's cold - it revs quite a bit before it moves - like it's sluggish.
Another issue that has me confused. Something is condensing on the bottom of the air intake tube - the white tube that runs from right in front of the gas tank back to the air filter. This condensation will build up and drip on the engine - enough to cause a bit of smoke here and there. It seems like it's the consistency of oil - but I don't know how it's getting there. I took the neighborhood kids on a Halloween Hay Ride - and pulling all that weight at a constant fairly low speed caused a significant buildup. Enough dropped onto the engine that there was actually a small fire.
I'd really appreciate any help with these two problems. Thanks!
#2
I agree that is sounds like yout clutch, but it does not make sense. Maybe change yout oil to a lighter weight in the winter? Is it posible that there is a buildup on the weights and springs of your clutch and gets thick when it sits in the cold weather?
#4
When I first got the bike it would not go into high range. I replaced the sub transmission gear and bushing because the old one was fused together. My guess is the bushing was not aligned with the oiler hole and it got too hot. I also replaced the bearings while I was in there. The carb and petcock has been rebuilt, the tank has been flushed. The starter brushes were gone so I replaced those too. I rebuilt the top end, flex honed it and it got new rings. After break in procedures I changed the oil and and filter. Now the bike will fire right up, rev when I hit the throttle and either move at a snailsbpace or not at all in reverse, or any of the 5 gears. After a while of messing with it something seems to settle in right and it will run fine. Also, I adjusted the clutch. Short of replacing the centripetal clutch and fibers I am not sure where to go from here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
#5
The clutch plates or shoes could be worn out or glazed, or the oil may be the wrong type. Not entirely certain what caused or fixed it, but I had an Eiger with clutch slip. Fitted new plates as the old ones were below spec on thickness, it lasted two weeks, did same again. Noted that new plates were on minimum thickness when fitted, so fitted new genuine plates, again these were min thickness when fitted (is Suzuki's workshop manual wrong?) and it was back with slip again within two weeks. Fitted a new centrifugal this time, though there was about 1/16" left on the shoes, but also changed oil from Duckhams to ProPower, We have been using ProPower for years but had been unable to get it at the time I serviced the Eiger. After we got the clutch trouble I checked with Duckhams and the type I used was unsuitable for wet clutches, although we had been assured by the retailer it was the direct equivalent of the ProPower. Anyway since then the bike has been OK regarding the clutches.
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