maybe you could better help me if i'm more specific, do u think the titan would pull a superlite FS lite model, the specs on it are these:
GVWR 7650 lb., UVWR 4760 lb. it has a 100 gallon fresh water capacity there would be 2 350lb quads in it and obviously all the supplies needed, and probably 4 people in the truck.

titan specs: maximum towing cap: 9500 Max payload: 1500 Curb weight: 5,024

 

Grab Dinner, midnight snack...something.. LOL Award below. [ed. 2hrs to post]

maximum towing cap: 9500 BS. Means nothing.
Max payload: 1500 That can come in handy.
Curb weight: 5,024 That's helpful.

Quads: 2 x 350lbs. Dry? or wet? I'd say dry.

People: Sorry to get personal, but how much do they weigh? Give a combined. That's all I need.

I REALLY need so much more information.

Ok, I'm having problems finding the GCWR. I keep finding numbers in the 14,000 range and one in the 16,000 range. I see consenous on the Titan and it says it can't do it in the real world of family camping.

Contact your dealer and ask them for the GCWR. It should be in the towing manual. Also, check the axle ratings (you can pop over those sometimes, but without the truck, they won't be that useful.)

I made an Excel worksheet. Let's see how this pastes in (wow, it's ugly!) (dbeck if you read this....how about a <PRE> tag...PLEASE...it would be SO much prettier!):

TRUCK
GVWR 6,500 (that's a guess from other posts)
80% RECOMMENDATION 5,200
GCWR 14,600
80% RECOMMENDATION 11,680
CURB WEIGHT 5,024
TOW CAPACITY (MANUFACTURER) 9,500
TOW CAPACITY (CALCULATED - GCWR-CURB) 9,576 (snide remark below)
PAYLOAD CAPACITY 1,476
80% RECOMMENDATION 1,181

PEOPLE 500 <-- confirm
CARGO 0 <-- need more info
TOTAL TRUCK WEIGHT 5,524

HITCH/CARGO CAPACITY 976
80% RECOMMENDATION 781

GCWR BALANCE 9,076
80% RECOMMENDATION 7,261

TRAILER CAPACITY @ 15%T 6,507
TRAILER CAPACITY @ 12%T 8,133
TRAILER CAPACITY @ 10%T 9,076

976LB IS 10% OF 9760 WHICH WOULD EXCEED GCWR

TRAILER
UVW 4,760
GVWR 7,650
CAPACITY 2,890
UNLADEN TONGUE (12%) 571
MAX TONGUE (15%) @ CAP 1,148
MIN TONGUE (10%) @ CAP 765

OPTIONS
0 <-- need info
0 <-- need info
TOTAL OPTIONS 0 <-- need info

CARGO
QUADS 700 (is that dry or wet?)
GEAR 100 <-- need info
FOOD 100 <-- need info
ICE 40 <-- need info
TOTAL CARGO 940

LIQUIDS WEIGHT/LB LBS TOTAL
GASOLINE 7 0 <-- need info
WATER 8 100 830 <-- need info
PROPANE 4 10 40 <-- need info
TOTAL 870

LOADED TRAILER WEIGHT 6,570
TONGUE WEIGHT (10%) 657
TONGUE WEIGHT (12%) 788
TONGUE WEIGHT (15%) 986

FINAL GCW 12,094
FINAL GCWR BALANCE 2,506
FINAL TRUCK GVWR BALANCE @ 12%T 188

The Award for the Lowest Calculated Driver Weight goes to...... Nissan Motor Company (crowd cheers) for the 9 year female driver weighing in at a whopping 76 pounds driving in their new stylish Titan! (GCWR - Curb Weight = total towing capacity. Man. Towing rated at 9500 leaves 76 lbs for the driver.) This lucky young lady will be the envy of all of her 4th grade classmates! Nissan unseats standing champion Toyota Motor Company's award for their Toyota Tundra. Congradulations again to Nissan Motor Company.
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[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] so ur saying it isnt a good idea?

 

the quads are 700lbs combined dry, as far as people weight u could probably say around 550, cargo in the truck couldnt be more than..... 100lbs, cargo in the trailer besides the quads would be some tools, food, fishing poles, helmets etc. id say about 350lbs would be giving some room, as far as options on the trailer they would be minimal so i would say that weight is pretty accurate, maybe add 50-100lbs to be safe, ur water weight sounds right as do the rest of the estimates.

 

you wouldnt catch me ever doin it

I would at least have a 3/4 ton for any toy hauler,,,,especially if you live near any mts or elevation changes

 

buy an older used 1 ton,,,,and just leave it connected to the toy hauler,,,,problem solved

 

I redid the calcs with the updated info you gave me.

No I wouldn't do it. Based on the calculations, and carrying a 12% tongue load, you would have 12 lbs in reserve of your GVWR on the truck. You have about 2000lbs left in towing, but you can't put anything else on the tongue. And the dry weight of the tanks would probably push you over that. Almost all of the tank weight is on the tongue. My calc was just for the weight of the propane (4lbs/gallon).

With a 10% tongue, which is the minimum, you would gain a little, but it's still too close.

These half-ton truck tow weightings are bunk as far as I'm concerned. They are rated with hardly any cargo in the truck, and a weird tongue load. The bigger trucks will usually push their GCWR before they push a GVWR on the trucks. They just have that much more suspension.

I'm with Bing, go for a couple year old Diesel full size (3/4 or 1/2 ton) truck. They will pull the load at better mileage and be more capable. The cost will be about the same, might pay a higher interest rate as they are used. But they will be a proven truck. Plus you won't get toasted on the initial loss of value. These trucks will also last longer, especially considering this load. You'll burn up that truck. They just really aren't made to really tow the load.

When I go riding just about everywhere requires me to do mountains. Cuesta going to Pismo. Pacheco going to Hollister. Mountain driving in the forests, and Grapevine going to Gorman.

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that is the other thing

 

BlackandRed, nice job on your numbers[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Psuperman, I agree with BlackandRed and Bing. You are pushing the limit of this truck. The numbers that BlackandRed put together, look pretty impressive. For the amount of money you will be spending, you would be better off buying a used 3/4 or 1 ton truck ton truck. Always better to caution on the safe side[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Lt. Dan

 

I like playing with number and get into this stuff. Guess that's why I grabbed the ball and ran with the Motor Carrier stuff. Oi. That gave me a headache. Need to make a list and call the CHP with questions. Wonder how I tell the boss to get rid of a trailer and a bunch of PITA stuff goes away. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]) No need for a Class A CDL and all that entails. All this damn paperwork for one flatbed, 2 vans (E-350 box vans) and a friggin trailer.

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