Redgoblin, the kq is very similar to the grizz, however, it is not neccessarily better in every category. The grizz has more ground clearance and suspension travel than the kq700.
Now, it really depends on what he wants to do with this quad as to which would be the best. For a sporty trail machine, the ones that have been mentioned are great choices, however, if it's trail and some mud bogging, then that's another story. The Arctic Cat has been mentioned and along with the polaris these two are the best mud bogging machines available. They are quite a bit heavier and designed more towards hard work and hard play than the others. If this is not the case I'd first reccommend the BRP800, as mentioned it's pricey. For some money savings but fast, Id say the BF650 or 750. They're a little tippy with the stock tires, but with some spacers, and/or aftermarket tires, you'll be ok. The KQ700 is also a good choice but it does not have alot of lowend grunt due to high gearing and a single cylinder. This will not matter for a trail machine, but for mudding, bigger tires, etc. you'll need a clutch kit. Don't espect it to ride a wheelie either, like the brutes, brp800, or sp800. The grizz has a little more low end grunt, pretty fast, very well priced with some negotiating, and is a proven machine. It will not through your neck back like the 3 real big bores will either though.To give a better suggestion, we need specifics as to his needs.

 

I have too, but the 650 is not EFI and there is only somthing like 14cc's differnce in the KQ and the new Rincon. The article I read last night in ATV rider seemed to indicate a night and day differnce in the old machine vs the new. That is just 1 of several similar articles that I have read in recent weeks about the new Rincon. I think that is why I am holding out on calling it a dog till I see some heads up shootouts with it and some other 700 class machines. I would be willing to bet it will beat the ACV2 and the new KQ powered AC. But I am not sure it will be able to hang with the KQ or the Prairie's. I also won't be surprised if it out runs the Grizz and Sp700 this year as well. I am planning on getting some actual seat time on one of the new Rinny's late this coming spring. I will have more first hand info by summer. For now I am paitently or not so patiently awaiting the big shootouts that should be coming in all the raggs.

 

The Grizz a good bike for bogging and stuff but is behind in technology in the big bore category. Its the slowest out of all the big bores I believe, but that doesn't matter to alot of people. The IRS and lack of power limits it on "playing" for alot of the sporty riders who like sliding, wheelies, etc......

 

Brute23, I think it maybe you that has the bf650, however, others may read this as well. My question is about the bf750. I have driven the bf750, however, didn't really get down on it. I have, however, driven and got down on the brp 800. Now, with this being said, the brp 800 will wheelie with ease. No sitting back on the seat, tugging on the handles, or any kinda body motion. How does the BF compare to this?

 

I would have bought a kawi, but AC has better features. (Ground clearance, speed rack, ect...)

 

With all due respect here, really, I own a KingQuad. I fully-understand it's capabilities and limitations. To hear someone say that it does not have enough low-end to do absolutely anything else any of the aforementioned machines can do in stock form really strikes a nerve with me. Many people are ignorant to the KingQuad's abilities to mud, rock climb, etc. with just tires and nothing else. You seem no different. This is false information to say that the King doesn't have significant low-end because it is a single-cylinder. This is very arguably the best one-lunger on the market for sport-utilities. The ONLY reason one may conceive it to not have very much low-end is because of the ignition lag built into the timing to save Suzuki from lawsuits from idiots who would hop on it, nail it and flip over backwards and become paralyzed. This "lag" is only noticeable when you are at a dead stop or crawl and punch the throttle. Otherwise, you wouldn't even know it's there and it only lasts until 9mph, at which point, the machine lurches forward and really starts booking. In slow-speed applications, such as mudding, climbing, rock-crawling, etc., this lag is not even evident, let alone a hinderance to the machine's performance and ability to turn meatier tires. For the record, I said ABOUT every category, which leaves room for exceptions such as ground clearance, but this is disturbing to see you telling a potential buyer of any machine falsehoods about how they work.

 

This is kind of a pointless comment because the Arctic Cats weigh so much more than everything else except Polaris.

 

Redgoblin,

Sounds like you have it all figured out, and offer the best advice! Doesn't sound like your being biased one bit towards the machine you own.......

 

No, I absolutely am biased, and I admit that openly in another thread on this section when asked about ATV advice. I got this machine for reasons though after months of homework and opinions, so there's a method to my madness. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that you are a bit biased too though, my friend.

 

Ya might want to go back and read my post again, then look at what I own. Seems I was pretty open minded. Also, I too have experience on the KQ700. Is it fast, yeah, but again the lowend grunt is not their like on the twins. When I speak of lowend grunt, I'm talking about pulling power. Hook it to a log and pull, or anykind of real weight. Your right once you get it going about 10mph you can feel the power, but my goodness man, who's going to be pulling a log, or climbing a hill this fast! I work in the log woods, so this is a must for me. I stand by the fact that the grizz has more lowend grunt than the KQ. Mid to Top the KQ will dust it, but that's not what I was talking about, nor what I posted.