Redgobblin, I am not sure what you mean by pointless since they are all in the 650-700cc class, the same class the KQ, Prarie 700, and the Rincon are in. I mentioned those because others were mentioning them. I am not a big fan of either the AC or the SP700, but that does not mean they should not be included in a mere comparision of the class offerings. I personaly think think the Sp800 is worth the extra money vs the Sp700. But then again since I am generaly not on a tight buget and love power, the more the better as far as I am concerned, my pic is what I have and thats the Outlander 800 as best overall. I however realize that not everyone is going to have those same wants or needs that is why I was trying to included all the machines I can think of in the larger class.

 

cc1999,

It seems the only thing that is pointless here is arguing with this member. I mentioned and reccomended quads other than my own and he still says I'm biased. I have ben riding for over 20 years, and have owned every brand available (in the big brands). They all have their goods and bads. That's why I said tell us what you want to do with it, so we can give you an educated suggestion. There's not a quda that is the best at everything!

Now, for redgoblins benefit. My purpose for the grizz is to ride trails, with the occasional mud. Would I have baught a KQ700 instead? Sure, but the price of the grizz comapared to the KQ, well needles to say which was cheaper for me. When I plan to go mudding or work in the woods, I take the Polaris, which is what I baught it for. Would I have baught the KQ700 over this? No, becuase it didn't have the lowend pulling power I needed for this. Now is the sp500 true competition for the kq700? Not as far as speed, but for lowend grunt it's better. Then you will say, isn't the sp700 more comp for the KQ. Yes, but the sp700 doesn't have the tried and true, bulletproof, unstoppable Fuji engine that the sp500 does.

 

Hard comment to prove as the v2 has a top speed greater than alot of quads, along with a mid range and low range power that is hard to beat. The bom will waste the V2, and the sp800 keeps up with it. The sp700 gets its butt kicked as my buddie already tried with his. This is all referring to Utility quads of course

 

Look, you may or may not have experience with the KingQuad. Frankly, I don't care. I'm telling you, as several KingQuad OWNERS well know, that the lag has absolutely no affect on pulling/mudding power. It is purely a speed-oriented limitation. The King has a towing capacity of 1,000 lbs. safely. Let's be honest here, you obviously do not have a clue what you're talking about in regards to knowing the King's power. Ask ANY KingQuad owner on this thread, or start a new one if you'd like, if they have problems towing heavy objects. As far as you being open-minded, you own a Grizzly and that is the machine you were trying so desperately to defend. 'Nuff said?

 

I just said I would have baught the KQ over the grizz had I not gotten such a good price on the grizz. Man, how is that defending the grizz??????? I just realized I'm dealing with a 17yr old. Now this explains his logic. Wait, that's an oxymoron! 17 yr old and logic in the same sentence........

 

Doesnt the grizzly have a 1000 lb towing limit. If it doesnt, that sort of sucks. The Cat has a 1,050lb towing limit (safely). I thought all big bore utility quads, newer ones anyway, had atleast 1000lb towing limits

 

You are speaking on terms of speed, correct? Honda Rincon 680 weighs approximately 600 lbs. dry. The new Arctic Cat 700 EFI weighs approximately 735 lbs. dry. To say that the new Rincon is quick (and it may indeed be) against the new Arctic Cat is kind of a strange statement in my eyes, but perhaps someone else will overlook the 135 lbs. of difference between the two.

 

If you are referring to the comment that I made, let me just ask you this: your V2 has the same engine as the old Kawasaki Prairie 650/ new Brute Force 650, right?

 

Actually, the 650V2 weighs 711 lbs dry, and WILL beat the rincon

 

Have I resorted to poking-fun as of yet, the way you have? I have not been immature, as you are implying, once in this thread's entirety. You made a false claim about the Suzuki KingQuad, a machine which the thread originator may or may not be considering and one that I happen to own, and I attempted to correct you. Forgive me if I've upset you, but I do not stand for incorrect information about these machines, especially information that I know to be incorrect from firsthand, everday experience.