Ok so maybe a sport bike wont make it thru deep mud. Most people quit playing in the mud after theyre 12. And If your buddy grew some *****, you all would not need to be stoping and helping him out. >>>>>>>>


We've had a tremendous amount of rain and there are trails where u either go through the mud or you turn around....u cross the creek or u turn around. I've ridden through water on my Rincon I wouldn't even think about going through on a YFZ, not knocking the quad but it simply isn't designed for this type of riding. So while I'm crossing through the creek you're stuck at the end of a trail, enjoy your ride back to camp. LOL

Maybe if you grew a brain you wouldn't respond in such an ignorant manner.

Have a terrific day!

 

90% of the power required to go up a step hill is put through the rear tires. Given that the UTE weighs 150-300 more than the sports quads, it requires the other 10% through the front wheels just to get up the hill. And it will be spinning 4 wheels going up the hill instead of two. Seems to me the ute is creating just as much damage. Also, last time I checked the UTEs have bigger engines than the sports quads. Last time I checked, the only ones making the big rutted out mud holes is the UTEs. Not the sparts quads. Seems to me we should not be putting the blame on anyone.. there is more than enough to go around.
Bryce

 

Hmm.. lets look at the numbers. My rear tires are 1 inch wider than your rear tires. You quad is probably at least 150-200 pounds heavier than my quad. My quad has 12 inches of ground clearance under the frame, lowest is under the SRA. My quad has two inches more suspension travel in the rear than yours. It has almost 1.5 inches more travel in the front. It seems to me, that my 250 will be better at some obstacles than your 650. With its wider rear tires and lower weight, it may climb better than yours. Funny thing is, my towing capacity is 850 pounds, only 400 pounds shy of yours. Your biggest advantage to climbing may be that you have more HP necessary to get a running start on the really steep ones. Don't underestimate the ability of a sports quad.

It seems to me that a 4000 foot climb may be no big deal depending on the terrain. What is really difficult is the steepness of the hill. So a 50 foot climb might be worse than your 4000 foot climb.

You are putting way to much emphasis on the climbing ability of 4wd. Seems to me that on a really steep hill, most of your power will have to put through your narrower rear tires, and you will have to have 4wd just to compensate for that and your additional weight.
Bryce

 

You obviously havnt been up against a 4x4 ute quad before, or you wouldnt be thinking you could compete in 4x4 terrain. I can say i wouldnt be near you in a race on a track, through woops, and in hairpin turns, but up a steep, wet, rocky hill, i will have had my lunch at the top by the time you get there.

 

LOL v2rider.. I am not so stupid to suggest that I will take on a 4wd ute in his back yard. But don't think that a 2wd quad is handicapped by much without the 4wd. Maybe you think that your quad in 2wd is the same as a sports quad, but you will be making a very poor assumption. The sports quad is not carrying around all the weight and friction of the 4wd.
Bryce

 

Oh no, like i said, in a race on a track, i see your tail light and thats it. lol!!

 

I have to agree i recently bought a 06 Honda rincon 680 and truly love it but have to admit there are some places i can't go that my older Honda TRX 300 went , and yes they did improve the engine braking in 06 so far been fine with me . I have to agree with reconranger. he hit it on the head , you don't need the tallest ground clarence ect you need a good preforming machine , with great gear ratio and not allot of extra weight and plenty of power that would be a a rancher if was me don't get me wrong my older 1989 trx 300 would climb like a mule better than my rincon to be honest but with all the extra power and size my choice would be the rancher.

 

yea, crunch yer numbers all you want. you have about as much chance in the mountains as i'd have on a MX track. not only is 4x4 a necessity, a front diff lock is gonna get you farther. you gotta remember, mountains are made out of rock. not the nice little rock on roads, either.

monty

 

Hu hu hu hu aint you a smart cookie. Your daddy with his sixth grade education teach you that retarded come back????

 

Maybe if some of you people would do a little research before you start running your mouth. First of all I told him he would be happy with the 450 wolverine. If you would take some time to check it out on the yamaha website, you would understand why I recommended it, and why I refered to it as a semi sport bike. It has the belt drive trans(similar to grizz), push button 4x4, 8.7" GC, 516lbs dry, ect. Never once did I tell him to get a raptor, I made a statment saying that I have a raptor and I prefer to ride it over the grizz. So pay attention, and lets all make the world a smarter place.