Old PSAR thread - please see the new one
Oct 31, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by: RidinLCWA
Another ORV area has been closed!!! DNR has announced that the Pilchuck Forest is now closed to ORV and motorized access. See the DNR announcement: http://www.dnr.wa.gov/htdocs/adm/comm/nr05_134.htm. Here is a quate from the release:
It is also interesting that at the last public hearing of the ORV noise management task force, DNR testified about how many miles of trails and acres of riding areas are available. They did not mention a pending closure at this forest. Chalk up another victor for the eco-***** and their state employee collaborators.
Another ORV area has been closed!!! DNR has announced that the Pilchuck Forest is now closed to ORV and motorized access. See the DNR announcement: http://www.dnr.wa.gov/htdocs/adm/comm/nr05_134.htm. Here is a quate from the release:
The decision to close the Pilchuck Forest area to motorized use is a result of growing concern about public safety, because of the increase in intensity and concentration of ORV use on the roads and on user-built trails.In addition, there are concerns about water quality and compatibility with forest land management. The area is part of the watershed that supplies drinking water to the City of Snohomish. ORV use has potential impacts to the municipal water supply due to riding in and along the shoreline of the Pilchuck River and its tributaries. The Pilchuck area is managed as a working forest. Damage to the soil, logging roads, and the riparian area that buffers the Pilchuck River has reached unacceptable levels and DNR’s first priority is to the land and resources.
Makes me think it's time to go buy an Oregon ORV license for $10 for TWO years and go contribute my recreational funds to Oregon's economy. At least they understand that our sport contributes to their overall economy and even INVEST in their ORV areas to improve and maintain them to keep them OPEN!
I wonder if this doorknob of a Public Lands Commisioner, Doug Sutherland, is up for re-election next week?
Oct 31, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by: RidinLCWA
Another ORV area has been closed!!! DNR has announced that the Pilchuck Forest is now closed to ORV and motorized access. See the DNR announcement: http://www.dnr.wa.gov/htdocs/adm/comm/nr05_134.htm. Here is a quate from the release:
It is also interesting that at the last public hearing of the ORV noise management task force, DNR testified about how many miles of trails and acres of riding areas are available. They did not mention a pending closure at this forest. Chalk up another victor for the eco-***** and their state employee collaborators.
Another ORV area has been closed!!! DNR has announced that the Pilchuck Forest is now closed to ORV and motorized access. See the DNR announcement: http://www.dnr.wa.gov/htdocs/adm/comm/nr05_134.htm. Here is a quate from the release:
The decision to close the Pilchuck Forest area to motorized use is a result of growing concern about public safety, because of the increase in intensity and concentration of ORV use on the roads and on user-built trails.
In addition, there are concerns about water quality and compatibility with forest land management. The area is part of the watershed that supplies drinking water to the City of Snohomish. ORV use has potential impacts to the municipal water supply due to riding in and along the shoreline of the Pilchuck River and its tributaries.
The Pilchuck area is managed as a working forest. Damage to the soil, logging roads, and the riparian area that buffers the Pilchuck River has reached unacceptable levels and DNR’s first priority is to the land and resources.
In addition, there are concerns about water quality and compatibility with forest land management. The area is part of the watershed that supplies drinking water to the City of Snohomish. ORV use has potential impacts to the municipal water supply due to riding in and along the shoreline of the Pilchuck River and its tributaries.
The Pilchuck area is managed as a working forest. Damage to the soil, logging roads, and the riparian area that buffers the Pilchuck River has reached unacceptable levels and DNR’s first priority is to the land and resources.
If so, that SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 31, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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From: Warshington
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Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
Is that P5000?If so, that SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by: RidinLCWAAnother ORV area has been closed!!! DNR has announced that the Pilchuck Forest is now closed to ORV and motorized access. See the DNR announcement: http://www.dnr.wa.gov/htdocs/adm/comm/nr05_134.htm. Here is a quate from the release:
It is also interesting that at the last public hearing of the ORV noise management task force, DNR testified about how many miles of trails and acres of riding areas are available. They did not mention a pending closure at this forest. Chalk up another victor for the eco-***** and their state employee collaborators.
The decision to close the Pilchuck Forest area to motorized use is a result of growing concern about public safety, because of the increase in intensity and concentration of ORV use on the roads and on user-built trails.In addition, there are concerns about water quality and compatibility with forest land management. The area is part of the watershed that supplies drinking water to the City of Snohomish. ORV use has potential impacts to the municipal water supply due to riding in and along the shoreline of the Pilchuck River and its tributaries. The Pilchuck area is managed as a working forest. Damage to the soil, logging roads, and the riparian area that buffers the Pilchuck River has reached unacceptable levels and DNR’s first priority is to the land and resources.
Oct 31, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by: LdyJay
Yes, that's P5000
Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
Is that P5000?If so, that SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by: RidinLCWAAnother ORV area has been closed!!! DNR has announced that the Pilchuck Forest is now closed to ORV and motorized access. See the DNR announcement: http://www.dnr.wa.gov/htdocs/adm/comm/nr05_134.htm. Here is a quate from the release:
It is also interesting that at the last public hearing of the ORV noise management task force, DNR testified about how many miles of trails and acres of riding areas are available. They did not mention a pending closure at this forest. Chalk up another victor for the eco-***** and their state employee collaborators.
The decision to close the Pilchuck Forest area to motorized use is a result of growing concern about public safety, because of the increase in intensity and concentration of ORV use on the roads and on user-built trails.In addition, there are concerns about water quality and compatibility with forest land management. The area is part of the watershed that supplies drinking water to the City of Snohomish. ORV use has potential impacts to the municipal water supply due to riding in and along the shoreline of the Pilchuck River and its tributaries. The Pilchuck area is managed as a working forest. Damage to the soil, logging roads, and the riparian area that buffers the Pilchuck River has reached unacceptable levels and DNR’s first priority is to the land and resources.
Oct 31, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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Ok well I went & read the article ARGGG ya know it's STUPID people that get out there & lose control, dont' have ANY RESPECT ect. I HATE PEOPLE LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 31, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by: LdyJay
That is total garbage!!! They arbitrarily decide that our type of recreation isn't the way I get to enjoy PUBLIC lands? How convenient that this was kept so quiet before the decision was made. Makes me really wonder why I bother to pay for tabs and an ORV license in Washington. WTF?!? I am really disgusted now. Not to mention the extra money on fuel it will cost me to get anywhere near somewhere that's legal to ride. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]
Makes me think it's time to go buy an Oregon ORV license for $10 for TWO years and go contribute my recreational funds to Oregon's economy. At least they understand that our sport contributes to their overall economy and even INVEST in their ORV areas to improve and maintain them to keep them OPEN!
I wonder if this doorknob of a Public Lands Commisioner, Doug Sutherland, is up for re-election next week?
Originally posted by: RidinLCWA
Another ORV area has been closed!!! DNR has announced that the Pilchuck Forest is now closed to ORV and motorized access. See the DNR announcement: http://www.dnr.wa.gov/htdocs/adm/comm/nr05_134.htm. Here is a quate from the release:
It is also interesting that at the last public hearing of the ORV noise management task force, DNR testified about how many miles of trails and acres of riding areas are available. They did not mention a pending closure at this forest. Chalk up another victor for the eco-***** and their state employee collaborators.
Another ORV area has been closed!!! DNR has announced that the Pilchuck Forest is now closed to ORV and motorized access. See the DNR announcement: http://www.dnr.wa.gov/htdocs/adm/comm/nr05_134.htm. Here is a quate from the release:
The decision to close the Pilchuck Forest area to motorized use is a result of growing concern about public safety, because of the increase in intensity and concentration of ORV use on the roads and on user-built trails.In addition, there are concerns about water quality and compatibility with forest land management. The area is part of the watershed that supplies drinking water to the City of Snohomish. ORV use has potential impacts to the municipal water supply due to riding in and along the shoreline of the Pilchuck River and its tributaries. The Pilchuck area is managed as a working forest. Damage to the soil, logging roads, and the riparian area that buffers the Pilchuck River has reached unacceptable levels and DNR’s first priority is to the land and resources.
Makes me think it's time to go buy an Oregon ORV license for $10 for TWO years and go contribute my recreational funds to Oregon's economy. At least they understand that our sport contributes to their overall economy and even INVEST in their ORV areas to improve and maintain them to keep them OPEN!
I wonder if this doorknob of a Public Lands Commisioner, Doug Sutherland, is up for re-election next week?
Oct 31, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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From: Warshington
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Originally posted by: Dirtmomma
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[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] WTF that REALLY bites [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img] I'm w/ YOU Jayna on buying your tabs in Or. I thought abuot that last time I went & got tabs TO GO TO OREGON thats the only place we really need them it seems, so WHY NOT contribute to them!!!
AND they are already talking seriously about shutting down REITER next.
I CAN'T make my quad street legal, but I still have to pay tabs like they are AND have ever decreasing areas to legally ride. NOT to mention the TAXES we pay on the purchase of new or used quads and every single PART or upgrade we buy at local shops.
Oct 31, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Bear4570
Just remember that you will be violating Washington state law to be a Washington resident and have tabs from Oregon on your vehicle. I believe the fine is $112 for the first offense and if you get caught again it goes up at least double every time you get written up. So Washington tabs on your truck or trailer and Oregon tabs on your quad is an invite to a fat fine. Besides DNR doesn't directly get the money from the ORV tabs. They have to apply for it for specific projects.
Just remember that you will be violating Washington state law to be a Washington resident and have tabs from Oregon on your vehicle. I believe the fine is $112 for the first offense and if you get caught again it goes up at least double every time you get written up. So Washington tabs on your truck or trailer and Oregon tabs on your quad is an invite to a fat fine. Besides DNR doesn't directly get the money from the ORV tabs. They have to apply for it for specific projects.
And why not have dual Residences? I know a few people that keep current liscenses in multiple states. So you just carry your oregon liscense while riding your quad
Oct 31, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by: Bear4570
First of all, who says I intend to ride in Washington again? Oregon does not require registration in Oregon to get an ORV license. So I am paying Oregon to ride in Oregon. I have the title to my quad, proving ownership and paying the taxes on the purchase. The point of tabs is, supposedly, to pay for usage of the areas my tires are going to hit the ground. Since I already pay enough property taxes to cover my quads being on my property, I am covered here. I am thinking that investing my money in the state that is going to support my recreational choice is my best way to NOT support this kind of garbage. I don't ride off trail, I respect the areas I ride and try to leave them better than I found them. If by nothing more than picking up garbage on my way through, sometimes trail maintenance. Not as much as I could, but at least something.
Try tagging the doorknobs that are causing the problems instead of punishing me for abiding by the law. I won't ride up there now that it's closed, but the ones that created the problems to begin with probably still will? So who exactly is paying for their infractions?
I also believe that an armed society is a polite society and gun control is using both hands. So that's enough ranting on politics from me. I am out!
Originally posted by: Bear4570
Originally posted by: LdyJay
Just remember that you will be violating Washington state law to be a Washington resident and have tabs from Oregon on your vehicle. I believe the fine is $112 for the first offense and if you get caught again it goes up at least double every time you get written up. So Washington tabs on your truck or trailer and Oregon tabs on your quad is an invite to a fat fine. Besides DNR doesn't directly get the money from the ORV tabs. They have to apply for it for specific projects.
Makes me think it's time to go buy an Oregon ORV license for $10 for TWO years and go contribute my recreational funds to Oregon's economy. At least they understand that our sport contributes to their overall economy and even INVEST in their ORV areas to improve and maintain them to keep them OPEN! I wonder if this doorknob of a Public Lands Commisioner, Doug Sutherland, is up for re-election next week?
Try tagging the doorknobs that are causing the problems instead of punishing me for abiding by the law. I won't ride up there now that it's closed, but the ones that created the problems to begin with probably still will? So who exactly is paying for their infractions?
I also believe that an armed society is a polite society and gun control is using both hands. So that's enough ranting on politics from me. I am out!
Oct 31, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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