Old PSAR thread - please see the new one
Oct 31, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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I dont get it.. We just got out liscensing fees what quadrupled here this year. and this is what we get.. We pay more and get less.. WOOO WHOOO.. Big Ol' Middle Finger For the govenor[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img] Make that two of them[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]
Oct 31, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Afternoon PSAR!
Interesting discussion... It's a bummer these places are being closed... I'll have to read the link. One of the things I did notice in the quote that Stan posted was a common argument the DNR and the Forest Service have in other articles... "user-built trails". It's hard for anybody to know what the intended trail is or was when they aren't clearly marked. A user comes in and forges a new trail, then others follow and it becomes part of the trail system.
The Forest Service has had problems with some of the trails up by Easton when the users remove the obsticals blocking the user built trails, or just ride around the burms.
The sad part is that it seems there is no requirement for notificaton of closure to trail systems because of the abuse by others.
This state does a poor job managing the ORV lands and rules governing the usage.
Interesting discussion... It's a bummer these places are being closed... I'll have to read the link. One of the things I did notice in the quote that Stan posted was a common argument the DNR and the Forest Service have in other articles... "user-built trails". It's hard for anybody to know what the intended trail is or was when they aren't clearly marked. A user comes in and forges a new trail, then others follow and it becomes part of the trail system.
The Forest Service has had problems with some of the trails up by Easton when the users remove the obsticals blocking the user built trails, or just ride around the burms.
The sad part is that it seems there is no requirement for notificaton of closure to trail systems because of the abuse by others.
This state does a poor job managing the ORV lands and rules governing the usage.
Oct 31, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by: 2mnyToyz
This state does a poor job managing the ORV lands and rules governing the usage.
This state does a poor job managing the ORV lands and rules governing the usage.
More middle fingers for government agencies. they are not out to do the peoples will.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]
I gotta run along. good night ya'll
Oct 31, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by: LdyJay
I also believe that an armed society is a polite society and gun control is using both hands and/or being able to hit your intended target. So that's enough ranting on politics from me. I am out!
I also believe that an armed society is a polite society and gun control is using both hands and/or being able to hit your intended target. So that's enough ranting on politics from me. I am out!
Oct 31, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by: RidinLCWA I was at a legislative hearing earlier this fall, where DNR testified. They specifically cited Capitol Forest as an area where they allow ORVs on the roads. In fact, there are several places where they are doing logging that the signs direct you to take the roads to connect to the trail at a different place. When Bear, RealtorRider and I went on a ride a few months ago, we ran into this. So, I think it's lousy that the guy got a ticket and hope he fights it. Who gave him the ticket: DNR, Thurston County Sherriff, State Patrol?
Oct 31, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
My taxes and my insurance is included in my monthly payment so I don't need to worry about them twice a year.
Originally posted by: Dirtmomma
Oh yeah just a friendly reminder for all you who OWN homes..................property taxes are due today [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img] BLAHHHHHH there's a nice chunk o change that could of been used for quads [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Oh yeah just a friendly reminder for all you who OWN homes..................property taxes are due today [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img] BLAHHHHHH there's a nice chunk o change that could of been used for quads [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Oct 31, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by: TractorPacker
I think that is the difference between owning the home, and buying the home.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
My taxes and my insurance is included in my monthly payment so I don't need to worry about them twice a year.
Originally posted by: Dirtmomma
Oh yeah just a friendly reminder for all you who OWN homes..................property taxes are due today [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img] BLAHHHHHH there's a nice chunk o change that could of been used for quads [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Oh yeah just a friendly reminder for all you who OWN homes..................property taxes are due today [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img] BLAHHHHHH there's a nice chunk o change that could of been used for quads [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Though, I wish I owned my home already...
Oct 31, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by: Red400EXRod My taxes and my insurance is included in my monthly payment so I don't need to worry about them twice a year.
Oct 31, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by: TractorPacker
I think that is the difference between owning the home, and buying the home.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
My taxes and my insurance is included in my monthly payment so I don't need to worry about them twice a year.
Originally posted by: Dirtmomma
Oh yeah just a friendly reminder for all you who OWN homes..................property taxes are due today [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img] BLAHHHHHH there's a nice chunk o change that could of been used for quads [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Oh yeah just a friendly reminder for all you who OWN homes..................property taxes are due today [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img] BLAHHHHHH there's a nice chunk o change that could of been used for quads [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Just another thought, do we ever really OWN our home since the Govt. tells us what we can and can't do with our home and property?