Where to Ride Share info on your favorite riding spot or ask others where to ride.

Old PSAR thread - please see the new one

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:17 PM
  #64371  
Bear4570's Avatar
Extreme Pro Rider
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,054
Likes: 0
Default Puget Sound/Seattle/Northwest Area Riders Meet HERE!!!

Originally posted by: HappaRap
Originally posted by: Bear4570 With tires (the larger 650cc quads and up exempted), If you increase tire diameter you change the overall final drive ratio the wrong way and beat up on acceleration and top speed. Tire weight does have an effect, but not near as much as the diameter increase. I would never (and didn't either) go to a larger diameter tire on my 400, they just plain rob to much torque to the rear wheels and beat up on the top speed.
Isn't that when you would install something along the lines of a Dalton Clutch Kit, to change the gearing?
I have the manual 5 speed, so low gear is plenty deep, it's just that the overall gear ratio change require more torque and horsepower to over come the problem. At least if I ever decide to hot rod, Speedwex is at least starting to make go fast stuff for the Arctic Cat 400.
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:18 PM
  #64372  
HappaRap's Avatar
Elite Pro Rider
Lazy Boy Rider!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,700
Likes: 0
Default Puget Sound/Seattle/Northwest Area Riders Meet HERE!!!

Originally posted by: Bigdaddy660RIt's an 03 Baja Bomb DS (originally) NOW.............................
HPR 800 with ALL the go fast goddies
Total weight of quad is 350#
This STALLION is ready to ROCK-n-ROLL...........
Congratulations, is it gonna beatup on your Rappy?

 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:20 PM
  #64373  
HappaRap's Avatar
Elite Pro Rider
Lazy Boy Rider!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,700
Likes: 0
Default Puget Sound/Seattle/Northwest Area Riders Meet HERE!!!

Originally posted by: RancherATCrazy I got an engine brake, I hardly ever use my actual brakes, besides my rancher doesn't go fast enough for a brake requirment [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] I WANT A RENEGADE!!!
Well then, go buy one!!!

 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:26 PM
  #64374  
HappaRap's Avatar
Elite Pro Rider
Lazy Boy Rider!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,700
Likes: 0
Default Puget Sound/Seattle/Northwest Area Riders Meet HERE!!!

Originally posted by: RancherATCrazy What do you recommend MB? I am buying a set of 4 next friday. I know the stockers I am running right now are heavy as hell but I think that is mainly the steel rims??? I am not looking foor a mud tire persay but a good trail tire that does well in mud, I thought the XTR's were the ticket [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
Reviews on the XTR say it cleans out extremely well, everything I've read says it's exactly what you want. 14" if you ride trails more than mudbog, 12" if you mudbog more than trails.

 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:28 PM
  #64375  
Bear4570's Avatar
Extreme Pro Rider
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,054
Likes: 0
Default Puget Sound/Seattle/Northwest Area Riders Meet HERE!!!

Originally posted by: HappaRap
Originally posted by: Bear4570 I would never (and didn't either) go to a larger diameter tire on my 400, they just plain rob to much torque to the rear wheels and beat up on the top speed.
Yeah, but you never worry about top speed anyway. Heck, if you're worried about speed, ride a sporty, right?
When we rode at China Hat this year I did some speed testing at 5000 feet, to compare to my sea level performance. I lost 9 miles and hour at 5000 feet. I used the same GPS and the quad's speedo showed the same lose. That's a bunch of power gone and if I had 1" taller tires it would have been about 20 percent worse. For the slow trail work I can always use low range and the gear ratio will cover up the torque lose but also cuts top speed by 60 percent, which on the trails is no big deal but then I have to shift out of low range when we hit the roads again. If I had a sportie I would get myself hurt and I just don't heal like I used to.
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:38 PM
  #64376  
Bing's Avatar
Super Quad Patrol
Smokes meat all the time!
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 12,479
Likes: 0
Default Puget Sound/Seattle/Northwest Area Riders Meet HERE!!!

Originally posted by: RancherATCrazy
Originally posted by: LdyJay
Originally posted by: HappaRap
Originally posted by: LdyJay I guess I don't need to wash the quad. Just gotta load it in the truck for Mother Nature's carwash to take care off it. Geez. It's dumping Lions and Great Danes here.
Just think how nice it's gonna be Sunday at Reiter, calling for sunshine Wednesday through the weekend [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
Wahoo! Still be lots o' mud. And who's bringing the chainsaw?
I'll Bring my saw but I am not carrying that big **** thing.
I would imagine any tree blocking the road has been cleared since last time you were there. Unless new stuff has fallen.

too many saw carrying rednecks cruise that place for a road or trail to be closed for very long
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:38 PM
  #64377  
HappaRap's Avatar
Elite Pro Rider
Lazy Boy Rider!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,700
Likes: 0
Default Puget Sound/Seattle/Northwest Area Riders Meet HERE!!!

Originally posted by: RancherATCrazyAgree with yeah there my stockers are 24" and the smallest XTR's they make are 25" so I will just have to eat an inch [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] But I am conserned now about what MB said about self cleaning, Huge lugs are not worth a chit if they are filled with crud all the time.
If you can find some thread that's solid, that mud can't collect in, that might be what you're looking for. But it's not muddy all year long, you're gonna ride alot of dry dusty trails and trails that have just water with hard pack underneath. Just do more research on the XTR's until you find enough negative information that would turn you off to them.

 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:43 PM
  #64378  
HappaRap's Avatar
Elite Pro Rider
Lazy Boy Rider!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,700
Likes: 0
Default Puget Sound/Seattle/Northwest Area Riders Meet HERE!!!

Originally posted by: Bear4570 I have the manual 5 speed, so low gear is plenty deep, it's just that the overall gear ratio change require more torque and horsepower to over come the problem. At least if I ever decide to hot rod, Speedwex is at least starting to make go fast stuff for the Arctic Cat 400.
I'm sorry, I thought you had an automatic [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:43 PM
  #64379  
Bing's Avatar
Super Quad Patrol
Smokes meat all the time!
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 12,479
Likes: 0
Default Puget Sound/Seattle/Northwest Area Riders Meet HERE!!!

Originally posted by: Bear4570
Originally posted by: HappaRap
Originally posted by: Bear4570 I would never (and didn't either) go to a larger diameter tire on my 400, they just plain rob to much torque to the rear wheels and beat up on the top speed.
Yeah, but you never worry about top speed anyway. Heck, if you're worried about speed, ride a sporty, right?
When we rode at China Hat this year I did some speed testing at 5000 feet, to compare to my sea level performance. I lost 9 miles and hour at 5000 feet. I used the same GPS and the quad's speedo showed the same lose. That's a bunch of power gone and if I had 1" taller tires it would have been about 20 percent worse. For the slow trail work I can always use low range and the gear ratio will cover up the torque lose but also cuts top speed by 60 percent, which on the trails is no big deal but then I have to shift out of low range when we hit the roads again. If I had a sportie I would get myself hurt and I just don't heal like I used to.

did you re-jet at 5000' ?
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:47 PM
  #64380  
HappaRap's Avatar
Elite Pro Rider
Lazy Boy Rider!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,700
Likes: 0
Default Puget Sound/Seattle/Northwest Area Riders Meet HERE!!!

Originally posted by: Bing I would imagine any tree blocking the road has been cleared since last time you were there. Unless new stuff has fallen.
too many saw carrying rednecks cruise that place for a road or trail to be closed for very long
I would hope so, but, those were some pretty big trees laying across the road.

 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:22 AM.