themez- this whole thread is about the dyno sheet. Hondas make less power across the board than yamaha and other makes also. This started a long time ago. Back in the 250r days the Honda 250r made the least power of the 3. ( tecate and suzuki lt250)


Still can't figure out why honda produces less power. You would think there design team would want that honor too. Knowsalot posted that Hondas recall record is the worst among the players. ( cannondale not included )So we have honda boys that have less power and looks like the reliabily factor is wearing thin.

Since you have better stuff to do than ride that is funny.( you need to put the shovel down, your hole is to deep already) You should get a college education first, this will be here when you get out. ( quads) but it looks to me that you are the 100 percent internet bench racer. You waver way to much. You grasp on the ray of hope of other posters on here. ( hondas) You are starting to look like a chameleon to me and others.

I am labeled a honda basher by many but that is not 100 percent true. I bought my son a 2002 250ex a year ago. Really a honda 229cc ex, honda likes to inflate the numbers like the HP claims.LOL I have a 1985 honda fourtrax 250 utility that has been sitting outside for years. I could probably get it started in less than a hour. Of course stopping it with those drum front brakes is another story.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

You can look at the recall issue two ways.

The simple minded way - "uhhh, recalls - they must build junk... Hey guys, Watch This!"

Or the way with a little more thought involved - Honda typically recalls any potential problems, no matter how small to take care of their customers and maintain their level of reliability.

I got a recall notice because some machine oil may have made it's way into the braking system. I got it tested, it was OK. No one I know actually suffered from the issue (and I run an e-mail list of over 500 400ex owners), but Honda checked them all to be sure - at their expense.

I bet there's some Raptor owners that wish there was a tranny recall, a starter clutch recall, a carb boot recall, an axle recall, an upper control arm recall, a rear shock recall (should I go on?)....

Heck, I bet there's a lot of Raptor owners that wish Yamaha actually honored their warranties.

Without a recall - you pay for the fix & it gets fixed with the same OEM parts that were flawed and failed in the first place (unless the aftermarket addresses the issue).

Funny you should bring up that Honda 229 (250ex)- How about that YFZ439 if you're going to be ragging on Honda for rounding up.....