Problem with 05 IRS Kodiak 450's
#31
I am hopeing that it will go away. Both of mine still squeak. I think I remember reading something on here about people haveing this problem. I will have both quads out his weekenddoing lots of riding. I guess I will have to wait and see if it gets any better.
#33
I will take it in if it still squeaks after this weekend. Tomorrow morning a buddy and I are headed out to an ATV park to give the kodiak it's first real ride [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] Since for the first couple rides and 10 miles my rear brake hasn't squeaked and now it is, I think something needs adjustment. The dealer suggested the pad/rotor might be glazed and might need a few good grabs of the brake, but I don't think so. It only started squeaking after I crossed a tiny creek (6 -8 inches). Who knows.
#34
Just picked up my camo Kodiak and trailer the other day. I put a few miles on it while at the cabin on a hunting trip, and really like it. I'm just getting used to it, so didn't open it up or do anything complex. I really like the engine braking, but noticed at times I had some squeaking too, only I couldn't say for sure it's the brakes. It didn't squeak when I was braking, rather when I was cruising along, and not very fast at that. I'll have to pick up that part at AutoZone, and get me a grease gun while I'm at it. Thanks for the heads-up, Lightman. The trailer is fine too, but I still need to get used to backing up with it, parking, etc. This is a whole new world for me, since I've never had a trailer and never ridden an ATV. My buddy got a green one and we tooled about the place for an hour or so between morning and afternoon hunts.
#35
Dougmd, congrats on getting into atv'ing!! I'm sure you will love the kodiak, it really seems so far to be a great machine. We'll see once we get some hours on it. You'll get the hang of the trailer thing in no time. It might help to go to a big parking lot and practice a bit. When people are new to backing trailers I think most people overcompensate and end up going back and forth. It really does'nt require that much effort. Hey look at it this way, at least your first trailer isnt a 36 foot 5th wheel or anything [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
#37
I just got a 450 and hear the squek as well , I don't believe it is a the swing arm , I will do some investigation this weekend and report back here. to me it sound as it is the brakes.
as far as greasing those fitting , I agree with the earlier post to use needle style attachments it will get to the front U joints easily.
a word of caution !!! do not apply too much froward force on the needle ... it could damage the zerk seat or your needle.
no reason to pushlike crazy.
second word of caution !!!
even it the squeek is not the suspension, every body should grease these fittingsand any place where it is possible on ATVs.
I have owned many japanise dirtbikes, on all of theme ...the steering and susspension bearings had zero or very little grease applied just like if they had grease shortage at the factory.
many smart dirt bike owners start out by disassembeling their bike (new) when they get it home, and grease the mentioned bearings right away.
I will do the same onmy new ATV.
as far as greasing those fitting , I agree with the earlier post to use needle style attachments it will get to the front U joints easily.
a word of caution !!! do not apply too much froward force on the needle ... it could damage the zerk seat or your needle.
no reason to pushlike crazy.
second word of caution !!!
even it the squeek is not the suspension, every body should grease these fittingsand any place where it is possible on ATVs.
I have owned many japanise dirtbikes, on all of theme ...the steering and susspension bearings had zero or very little grease applied just like if they had grease shortage at the factory.
many smart dirt bike owners start out by disassembeling their bike (new) when they get it home, and grease the mentioned bearings right away.
I will do the same onmy new ATV.
#38
hey guys, i have the Squeaking as well, i thought it was coming from my rear drive shafts/suspension on the the rear side with the brake.... but later i thought it was coming from my rear brake as well.... so i took off my tire, took off the Caliper, and guess what... NO SQUEAKING.... so i clean the pads(Very pitted) and clean the rotor.... mine started squeaking after a little run through the local beach water.... there was a ton of small rocks.. all over the place... cleaned that up, and now it barely squeaks... it lets a little squeak out every once, when i jump on the brake hard, it doesn't squeak, but when i brake lightly it squeaks.
Does any body have any pics of where thes Zerks are? i am new to these machines, and i have been trying to get a manual for these things... but nothing yet...
Does any body have any pics of where thes Zerks are? i am new to these machines, and i have been trying to get a manual for these things... but nothing yet...
#39
don't have a picture, but I can tell you
there is grease ittings;
front a rear drive shaft " U" joints, 2 fitting per shaft
"U" joints are located where the drive shaft pivots or changes angles. there is 2 grease on the front shaft and 2 in the rear shaft.
rotate the shaft (with the tires off the ground ) or by rolling the ATv where it is at an agle where you can fit a regular grease gun in there
also there is 4 grease fitting in the rear suspension
you have 1 upper and 1 lower control arm on each side of the rear differential ,
these arms will dead end to the rear aluminum hub where your wheel is mounted on.
or also you can spot the grease fittings by looking at the rear driveshafts closer to the wheels where the rubber boots are covering the outside CV joints.
above and under the rubber boot !!!
2 on the left side 2 on the rightside of your ATV.
there is grease ittings;
front a rear drive shaft " U" joints, 2 fitting per shaft
"U" joints are located where the drive shaft pivots or changes angles. there is 2 grease on the front shaft and 2 in the rear shaft.
rotate the shaft (with the tires off the ground ) or by rolling the ATv where it is at an agle where you can fit a regular grease gun in there
also there is 4 grease fitting in the rear suspension
you have 1 upper and 1 lower control arm on each side of the rear differential ,
these arms will dead end to the rear aluminum hub where your wheel is mounted on.
or also you can spot the grease fittings by looking at the rear driveshafts closer to the wheels where the rubber boots are covering the outside CV joints.
above and under the rubber boot !!!
2 on the left side 2 on the rightside of your ATV.
#40
ok,
did wash the ATV and removed rear tires, inspected the "SQueek situation"
at this point my educated quess is;
it is not the susspension , nor the brake pad to rotor noise,
I think it is the --brake caliper pin to brake pad--- contact.
here is why I think it is not the susspension,
i did not hear the squeek when the ATV is stopped, and it is being rocked side to side.
it can only be heared when the ATV is moving.
brake caliper base is mounted to the hub which is fixed(does not move ) caliper it self floats on this pin usually on a sealed and greased bushing.
brake pads are resting on a fixed caliperbase pin. metal to metal contact, (no grease)
the hub bearing has a slight freeplay allowing the brake rotor a slight radial movment, this rotor movement will slightly move the brake pads side to side wether the brakes engaged or not.
becuse the ATV is moving forward there is a slight upward pressure on the brake pads which is coming from the rotors forward turning motion.
here is a picture
brake pin
to sum it up;
your brake pads (the metal backing side of the brakepad )are slightly moving side to side on a solid metal caliper pin.
this noise is coming from the left side because your rear brake is located on the inner side of the left rear tire.
I did not inspect the front brakes yet yet.
applying water proof grease will or may bring temp. fix to the problem but the grease soon will atract dust/dirt and it will become a gringing paste
did wash the ATV and removed rear tires, inspected the "SQueek situation"
at this point my educated quess is;
it is not the susspension , nor the brake pad to rotor noise,
I think it is the --brake caliper pin to brake pad--- contact.
here is why I think it is not the susspension,
i did not hear the squeek when the ATV is stopped, and it is being rocked side to side.
it can only be heared when the ATV is moving.
brake caliper base is mounted to the hub which is fixed(does not move ) caliper it self floats on this pin usually on a sealed and greased bushing.
brake pads are resting on a fixed caliperbase pin. metal to metal contact, (no grease)
the hub bearing has a slight freeplay allowing the brake rotor a slight radial movment, this rotor movement will slightly move the brake pads side to side wether the brakes engaged or not.
becuse the ATV is moving forward there is a slight upward pressure on the brake pads which is coming from the rotors forward turning motion.
here is a picture
brake pin
to sum it up;
your brake pads (the metal backing side of the brakepad )are slightly moving side to side on a solid metal caliper pin.
this noise is coming from the left side because your rear brake is located on the inner side of the left rear tire.
I did not inspect the front brakes yet yet.
applying water proof grease will or may bring temp. fix to the problem but the grease soon will atract dust/dirt and it will become a gringing paste


