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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Round tubing? yeah yesterdays ATV's why is it so hard for you to understand the difference bwteen todays and yesterdays ATV's. Apparently there is some communication issue going on here.
Last time I checked about all ATV's sold today have round tubing.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
OK that small word you use "about" is the reason why I agree with your above statement.

 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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just a side note, for the 2005 baja 1000 the pro bike 1st place had a time of 14:20 the top trophy truck had a time of 15:48 something and the top quad had a time of 18 something. So if you think a bike cant keep up with a buggy, think again!! Bikes have the fastest times in Baja and sadly they beat quads by 4 hours and beat the $200,000 trophy trucks by an hour so dont think for a sec that quads have equaled or surpassed bikes. At least untill I race Baja in 2008, then quads will beat the bikes!!!!
I don't think those trucks run the same course as the bikes. If you look on Isle TT. WRC websites and many other Baja sites you will see the Baja actually beat the motorcycles by a pretty good measure. It has always been this way. Not to say of they made the course extremely small that the bike wouldn't have a chance but those bikes can't and don't carry 100+ mph speeds like the vehicles do over desert terrain.

 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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proving me wrong? since proof can only come from evidence and the only evidence I saw here was a statistic on a one race result in drakar compaing a motorcycle (not dirt bike) to a Baja ATV.

Apparently you really don't know what evidence is nor proof.

Where is your evidence? Nobody in here has posted actual times because it is common sense that the dirtbikes rule in racing as far as lap times go. I can't believe you are stupid enough to argue the MX times.


can't make a valid point? according to whom? you? give me a break...
According to everyone in here. You need a break from the crack pipe and that is about it.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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but those bikes can't and don't carry 100+ mph speeds like the vehicles do over desert terrain.
Neither do the quads!
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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there is only one course at baja and everybody runs the same course, and Johnny camble on his XR650 does top 100Mph in sections of the race. True the trucks get higher speeds but they have a slower average speed for the whole course.

But on that note a Banshee holds the record for the fastest time at Pikes Peak!! Nothing is faster up that hill than an ATV!!
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by: cctman

OK that small word you use "about" is the reason why I agree with your above statement.
About= ONE. And who says that it is more advanced than a MX bike? It will not go more places than a 80's dirtbike, it won't out run it. Please explain.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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there is only one course at baja and everybody runs the same course, and Johnny camble on his XR650 does top 100Mph in sections of the race. True the trucks get higher speeds but they have a slower average speed for the whole course.

I thought they ran the same course. cctman needs to watch "Dust to Glory".[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] Those big trucks are much slower in the tight technical area's.


But in all fairness, comparing a Trophy Truck to a Dirtbike is off subject. Unless the subject is showing cctman his ignorance, which is what evereyone has been doing this whole thread.



But on that note a Banshee holds the record for the fastest time at Pikes Peak!! Nothing is faster up that hill than an ATV!!
Finally, we can chalk ONE up for the ATV's.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] Hey, no one can win them all right?[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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I was refering to an eariler post of Bikes cant keep up with buggys and rails, which is bull!! Bikes rule Baja, not sure what website he has been looking at but his info is clearly wrong.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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The KTM 660 Rally piloted by Coma finished in 55hrs27min
The BRP 650 DSX Piloted by Gonzalez Finished in 92hrs 25 mins thats a 37 hour asswhoopin that KTM put on a quad [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

give me a break. Thats not even a dirt bike thats a modified 24 hour drakar bike. Heck why didn't you just pull the old super bike card. IF your going to pull the drakar bike card fine... try comparing your drakar bike to a full on WRC, or rail buggy. Do you realy want to open the can of worms of 2 wheel vs 4 wheel? Then you better keep this down to stricky dirt bike vs ATV, and by dirt bike I don't mean drakar style bikes nor super bikes.
It doesnt take the custom KTM 660 to beat it rocket man.. pull your head out and realise. ALLL THE MOCYCLES finished faster than the quads except a few that had problems. there were YZF 450 wr 450 and ever other freakin dirtbike. they all spanked the quads. Go look for yourself... its not a two wheel vs 4 wheel thing. quads kick ***. I RIDE THEM ROCKET MAN. However i aint so neive to think quads have better technoligy that dirtbikes. for focks sake dirt bikes have had aluminum frames for a couple years. so where is this leap years ahead frame technology you speak of? Where is this suspension you speak of? where is anything you speak off? pull your head out of its resting place.. get some cu-tips and clean that brown Chit out your ears and open your eyes for once. Quads kick *** in the slick and nasty. but when there is traction to be had i would way rather have a dirtbike. Only reason i went to quads from dirtbikes is our ranch is all CLAY and in washington IT RAINS EVERY FREAKIN DAY..
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by: motox26
Originally posted by: cctman
Round tubing? yeah yesterdays ATV's why is it so hard for you to understand the difference bwteen todays and yesterdays ATV's. Apparently there is some communication issue going on here.
Last time I checked about all ATV's sold today have round tubing.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Some are square tubing. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

But nobody puts aluminum on a stock quad, that I'm aware of anyway.
 
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