I wish they would put a selective throttle on them also. With one on the floor so I can control the speed while I spray fence lines, cut new trails, clear old trails, and drink COLD BEER![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

Talked to the dealer today who has actually had seat time on the new griz at some sort of demo. He said the power steering is going to be one of those things that once you try you are never going to know how you got along without. You are exactly right about it being especially useful in fully locked low speed situations. He said it is essentially seamless too. You don't notice except for the light steering effort.

He was of the impression that the new griz was really going to be a hit. Something really special that Yamaha took their time to get right. He didn't think it was aimed to de-throne the more power oriented machines like the BF 750, the Polaris 800 or certainly not the Outlander 800. It just wouldn't be able to hang in the power department. However it was taking specific aim at the Suzuki KQ and the Honda big bore machines. He thought it bested both of them in terms of handling and power. He sells Honda as well as Yammy and he said the grizz is going to spank anything in the Honda line. Sounds like it's going to be a great ride.

 

For all the sport guys that think top speed is a big selling feature on utility quads, nobody is paying attention to you. There isn't anything an 800cc machine can pull that my 660 can't. Ok, that is a pretty broad statement. What I mean is, if my Griz can't pull it then there is a pretty good chance that your 800 can't either.

 

The reason for people wanting more power is not for top speed. Its the fact once you switch from stock tires to aftermarket rims and tires like 27in in size your 700cc quad now feels like a 500 cc quad and theres nothing you can do to fix it besides get more power.

 

That is true, but if your dishing out $8000 don't you want one with the most power or power steering? If they kept the price around the KQ700 price like where it looks like they want to compete with, I think it would be a great seller. But being close in price to all the big bore twins, I think many will go with the twins over the power steering.

 

, I think many will go with the twins over the power steering.



Good point. I would for sure want the power of a twin[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

If someone was looking at the specs, I can't see where the Grizz700 will spank the Rincon or KQ in Handeling or power. The Grizz sits quite a bit higher and is narrower then either the two. That doesn't help the handeling much. The KQ engine on paper looks to be more powerfull even tho it won't be much. The KQ is 9cc more but more important it has a 10:1 compression while the Gizz is 9.2:1. The KQ is no slouch in the power department. So other then the Power steering, I don't see where the Grizz has any advantage over the KQ. Both have the best CVT, both have lockers, both have fuel tanks under seat, both have high snorkles and sealed cvt's, the KQ has a sealed rear brake while the Grizz is dual exposed disk. The Gizz has more GC, but if you look at the seat height between the two, then you can see why the Grizz GC is higher. But is the power steering worth the $500 extra? That will be question most will ask themselves between the 2.

 

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Originally posted by: GE4x4
Griz has 5.3 gal fuel vrs 4.6 gal.
Griz has 11.2 in ground clearance vrs 10.2 in.
Griz has 9.5 in rear suspension travel vrs 8.1 in.
Griz has wide arc front A-arms for extra ground clearance when off center.
Griz has to the rear oriented rear A-arms which look cool. Don't know if it's any better.
Griz has new straight front to rear drive shaft layout for less wear and vibration.
Griz has Yamaha Ultramatic tranny which most rate best in industry.
The griz EFI is two years newer and may be better but do not know for sure.
Griz has more water resistant air box and tranny breathers.
If the new Griz was one month later coming out I am quite sure I would have had either a new King Quad or an Arctic Cat in my garage instead of a Yamaha. If I had a King, an AC, or a 660 Griz then I know I would not trade up for the 700 Griz. These are all very close and all will certainly do the job. I think the Yamaha 700 will eventually be considered a very good all around machine just like the King Quad even though neither machine will have the best rating regarding power, load capacity, comfort, speed, handling, reliability, ground clearance, suspension travel, fuel capacity, etc. To be the best in any catagory could compromise the goal to be the best all arounder.

 

You hit the nail on the head with that post.
If I had a King, an AC, or a 660 Griz then I know I would not trade up for the 700 Griz. These are all very close and all will certainly do the job
The Cat has 12, or 12.5 in clearance, 6.5 gallon tank, 10" travel. A small amount more than grizz in these departments, But that doesnt mean its better, the grizz may be a little better balanced with that height, and weight ratio. But they are so similar, thats why Grizz would be my second choice of quad! They have what i like.

 

Oldturtle, very true, but it goes the other way to.

KQ MSRP $7499 vs $7999
KQ 695cc vs 686cc
KQ compression 10:1 vs 9.2:1
KQ width 47.6 vs 46.5
KQ seat height 33.9 vs 35.6
KQ wheel base 50.4 vs 49.2
KQ FI was out before it made it in a Yammi atv
KQ has the 3rd light on bars vs 2 lights


Like I said, there very close and don't see any smoking the other like people keep saying. But even looking at the specs, the KQ has a bigger motor, sits lower and wider with a longer WB would make it handle better too. So people will have to ask themselves, is the power steering worth the $500 extra. I'm looking at getting a 4x4 this year, so I want to see if it is worth the extra.