Who makes the box? That is probably the problem at this point in time. If the CDI isn't right pull starting won't help.

 

ricks cdi

 

So your saying that you have spark when your NOT touching the case and it goes away when you do?

 

i wasnt paying attention sry when the plug is grounded to the jug or the exhuast pipe it fire great bright blue and dancing all around the cucumferance of the electrode

 

Ah, got it. This may sound strange but have you tried shooting air in the cylinder thru the plug hole? Sounds wierd but if it is flooded it will dry out the cylinder or displace any built up oil. Also has the benifit of cleaning out debris if stuck in a valve. Sounds like you've tried most things so might as well try the odd.

 

yea im realy starting to second guess the cdi the factory unit has
3gd-30
f8t30577
5803
i found a factory modle rebuilt by ricks for 209

 

wow, ur spark jumping around is not a good thing, something is up with your electrical parts for sure, i have heard of ricks but i think that might be the prob, id try swapping it for another one, also set your sparkplug gap to where its barely not touching the electrode and see if it will want to fire. but most likely the stator or pickups are just wrong.

 

well the stator is oem yamaha both of them lol i bought 2 so far they ohm out good

the pick up coil 1 is a ricky 1 is the oem that was in the motor and the 3rd is a oem replacement all ohm out good

i was goofin around with it today and closed the gap up a little but maybee not enough the spark is coming from the side of the center electrode on the plug (new & old) now when i try to start it with the carb on or off and using either it doesnt start when i pull the plug out it isnt firing or erratic i blow off the plug with air and it sparks fine the spark may be bright blue but could it be weak unless the plug range is too hot and gap to wide ,.,..,.., just a thought

 

also i think ill get my timing light and check the spark time

 

ill get my timing light back from my father in law and ill waycj the flash against the timing mark through the hole in the case for the mag and see if it is at least firing right