ATV with HID kit
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ATV with HID kit
Hello,
I have Aeon Cobra (or new sporty) 180cc of year 2004. This atv in the headlight uses a ba20d bulb (12v-35w/35w) and I don't see the road very good in the night. I want to install an HID kit to my atv. My concern is, will the electrical system support this kit or I will have a problem with the battery, alternator etc.? Also I want to convert the ba20d of my atv to fit an h4 bulb. What do you think?
I have Aeon Cobra (or new sporty) 180cc of year 2004. This atv in the headlight uses a ba20d bulb (12v-35w/35w) and I don't see the road very good in the night. I want to install an HID kit to my atv. My concern is, will the electrical system support this kit or I will have a problem with the battery, alternator etc.? Also I want to convert the ba20d of my atv to fit an h4 bulb. What do you think?
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I don't know how many watts the aeon cobra stator will put out. My 150cc GY6 quad with an eight pole single phase stator will put out 55 watts total at high engine speed. At lower engine speeds it has less capacity. Realistically over a range of normal speeds I can expect to only power 35 watts of lights total. And yes, I agree you can't see very well at night.
Do you know what kind of stator you have? Is it single phase or three phase?
Are your lights AC powered or DC powered? To test: Turn on the ignition but don't start it up. Turn on the lights. Are they on? If so your lights are DC powered. If not, start up the quad and turn on the lights. If they're on now your lights are AC powered.
If your lights are DC powered there are some measurements that can be done to determine how close to the limit you are with your existing lights. Then you can look at the wattage of the lights you want to add and see if it is plausible. Got a meter that has a ten amp DC current scale? Want to do this?
In any case you can add as many DC powered lights onto your battery as you want without harming anything, as long as you keep in mind the following:
1) If your stator/regulator cannot handle the load it will simply turn over the excess load requirements to your battery. Your battery will fill in nicely and silently while you're riding along, but your battery is also getting discharged all the while. For most quads this is situation normal when the stock headlights are on and the engine speed is low or at idle. There is a net current drain out of the battery. At speed though, the stator output has excess capacity and will power the lights with enough reserve to put current back into the battery keeping it charged up overall.
2) If you're adding loads to the wiring the existing fuse and wiring may not safely handle the excess current. So add the new loads wired directly off the battery through it own protection fuse. That way you won't blow the existing fuse. Don't skip adding the new fuse - fires can cause a lot of damage.
But is you really want to do this right the look into LED headlights. If you take the 35 watts allocated to your stock incandescant headlights and apply that same power to LED headlights you could light up the entire countryside. LED lights are pricey, but wow are they impressive. Search youtube for some demo's...
Do you know what kind of stator you have? Is it single phase or three phase?
Are your lights AC powered or DC powered? To test: Turn on the ignition but don't start it up. Turn on the lights. Are they on? If so your lights are DC powered. If not, start up the quad and turn on the lights. If they're on now your lights are AC powered.
If your lights are DC powered there are some measurements that can be done to determine how close to the limit you are with your existing lights. Then you can look at the wattage of the lights you want to add and see if it is plausible. Got a meter that has a ten amp DC current scale? Want to do this?
In any case you can add as many DC powered lights onto your battery as you want without harming anything, as long as you keep in mind the following:
1) If your stator/regulator cannot handle the load it will simply turn over the excess load requirements to your battery. Your battery will fill in nicely and silently while you're riding along, but your battery is also getting discharged all the while. For most quads this is situation normal when the stock headlights are on and the engine speed is low or at idle. There is a net current drain out of the battery. At speed though, the stator output has excess capacity and will power the lights with enough reserve to put current back into the battery keeping it charged up overall.
2) If you're adding loads to the wiring the existing fuse and wiring may not safely handle the excess current. So add the new loads wired directly off the battery through it own protection fuse. That way you won't blow the existing fuse. Don't skip adding the new fuse - fires can cause a lot of damage.
But is you really want to do this right the look into LED headlights. If you take the 35 watts allocated to your stock incandescant headlights and apply that same power to LED headlights you could light up the entire countryside. LED lights are pricey, but wow are they impressive. Search youtube for some demo's...
Hello,
I have Aeon Cobra (or new sporty) 180cc of year 2004. This atv in the headlight uses a ba20d bulb (12v-35w/35w) and I don't see the road very good in the night. I want to install an HID kit to my atv. My concern is, will the electrical system support this kit or I will have a problem with the battery, alternator etc.? Also I want to convert the ba20d of my atv to fit an h4 bulb. What do you think?
I have Aeon Cobra (or new sporty) 180cc of year 2004. This atv in the headlight uses a ba20d bulb (12v-35w/35w) and I don't see the road very good in the night. I want to install an HID kit to my atv. My concern is, will the electrical system support this kit or I will have a problem with the battery, alternator etc.? Also I want to convert the ba20d of my atv to fit an h4 bulb. What do you think?
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I think that the name brands quads has strong electrical system. The hid kit is 35watt but I don't think that this is the only thing that I must consider. This is why I am asking because I think that my taiwan made atv has not the best electrical system.
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Thanks for the quick reply. From what you are saying my lights are AC powered because I must have my atv running to turn on the lights. I don't know about the stator but look at these pictures of my stator:
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Can you identify if is three phase or single? What is your opinion for hid now?
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Can you identify if is three phase or single? What is your opinion for hid now?
Your stator is certainly single phase. Three phase stators usually have 3 yellow wires coming off the battery charge windings. Single phase stators have two yellow, or two white, or a yellow and a white wire coming off the battery charge windings.
HID lighting is *far* superior in terms of efficiency (watts going in versus light coming out) to the stock incandescant headlights. LED headlights are *better still*. Both solutions are pricey.
Before jumping into this I would look seriously at both technologies and make an informed choice. And I would take the time to measure your stator capabilites first so that you have a good idea whether you're charging or draining your battery while you wander off to far lands into the night...
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