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Old May 16, 2012 | 12:39 AM
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I understand...this battery apparently from the guy I got it from is brand new he even had a receipt of purchasing it a week ago..from your knowledge what do you think my issue can be from the symptoms I am having?
 
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Old May 16, 2012 | 12:45 AM
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Also If you could what is that screw to the left of the tire called that looks bent in this pic

 
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Old May 16, 2012 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by aromao
lynnedwards thanks for the your post the last one I understood but the one before i really didn't i apologize...I will go get the same size fuses in about 7 -10 amps but im not sure it has to do with that because I checked it with a volt meter and I got continuity off of it. I am going to bring my quad over to my mechanic tomorrow night he used to work on motorcycles so hopefully he can find this electrical problem for me. I also ordered a starter relay which could possible be the case. What do you think?
I think replacing the starter solenoid is preamature. If it were me I would measure the starting path with a meter and find out where it breaks down. It could just be an open wire. Basicaly you need to apply 12 volts across the starter solenoid *small* wires - i.e. one goes to ground, and the other goes to the positive battery voltage. But to do that the voltage has to go through the fuse, ignition switch, brake safety interlock switch, and the starter button. All of these have to work, as well as the wiring (both the 12 volts and ground return paths)

Here ares the two common methods for wiring up the starter citcuitry:

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See if you can follow the path from the positive battery terminal to the starter solenoid actuating coil, and back to the negative battery terminal.

And here is a wiring diagram that claims to be for a peace ATV - model unknown:

Peace_ATV_Wiring[1].pdf
 
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Old May 16, 2012 | 01:36 AM
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do you think any of the parts i ordered are gonna fix it or do you think its a bad wire somewhere? also where is a good place to order parts from?
 
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Old May 16, 2012 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by aromao
Also If you could what is that screw to the left of the tire called that looks bent in this pic

the bent screw is the plunger for the master cylinder for the rear brake.. it goes in at an angle due to crappy assembly/jigging.. mine has broken clean off before, I welded it back on and it looks just like yours, but it works fine.

You could re drill the mounting holes closer to the frame so it would go in straight if you wanted.
 
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Old May 16, 2012 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by aromao
Change the spark plug but the only way to get the quad started was to give it gas and then it would die.

Please give me any other options I can try.
if its cranking and you are getting spark then it may not be electircal, it may be a fuel issue.. from my understanding (and Lynn would know much better than me) the safety switches only lock out the starter.. any time I have had a problem with one it wouldnt crank at all

starting when you give it gas but not staying running sounds like a clogged pilot jet

the easiest way to check would be to take the air filter off and spray some carb cleaner in the carb and start it.. it will probably start and you can try squirting a little more fluid in every few seconds or so.. if you can keep it running on carb cleaner than it is definately a fuel issue and you porbably need to change/clean the pilot jet.. they are tiny and clog easily
I use only premium fuel from name brand gas stations and I still find crud in my filters, the stock filters arent very good.
 
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Old May 16, 2012 | 09:44 AM
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ok cool. I am going to my mechanics tonight to bring him the quad with the wiring diagrams hopefully he will e able to get and see what is going wrong. I wish I would be able to fix this kind of thing but Im not to good with electrical issues so he may be better off I will keep you guys posted on what happens.
 
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Old May 16, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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How would I get to the pilot jet to clean it? Or is that something I can get a new one? Where could I purchase that?
 
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Old May 16, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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How would I get to the pilot jet to clean it? Or is that something I can get a new one? Where could I purchase that?
unfortuantley thats a bit of a loaded question on china quads

in theory its easy, there are a coulple screws on the bottom of the bowl that you unscrew and the bowl comes off, inside the carb then you will see 2 jets, the pilot jet will be the one that isnt in the center, it should unscrew and come out

it is basically a piece of brass with a tiny hole in the middle that fuel flows thru. Sometimes you can blow it clean with compressed air or carb cleaner, sometimes you have to push something skinny and hard thru it. I have used stands of wire, apparently there is some sort of welding clening thing that works well.

The tricky part is a lot of the china carbs dont have screws to open them, in which case you have to drill out the pins and replace them with screws when you are done. The other part of this equation is there is no telling what kind of jets it uses. On a Jap bike you can just go to any motorcycle shop and buy a new jet for $3, but on these there is no telling. You have to pull your jet, take it to the bike shop and hope they can/will match it.

On mine I just bought a genuine Mikuni to avoid these issues, but that is a whole nother headache on its own.

There are some guys on another thread that have been drilling them out with micro drills, but I havent done that.

Try the starting fluid thing and let us know what happens.
 
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Old May 16, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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ok sounds good will do thanks for all the help
 
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