Hey guys, I'm about as conservative as they come. However I must admit that you have missed the intent of the CARA bill. It is being supported by just about every outdoors organization because it will add more land for public use. I became aware of the bill by being a member of the NRA and National Wild Turkey Federation. My most recent copy of the NWTF magazine even included a typed letter to our two US Senators that I only had to sign and mail to them.

So then, should the bill pass there will be more public land for hunting, fishing and other activities. Whether or not we get to ride our ATV's on this land all depends on how we take care of the public land that we ride on now.

 

yo all, If they would take the guns away from the criminals first I'd gladly give them mine! Same goes for ATVs, if they take ATVs away from the people that r riding them without a helmet or without registration, (which we all know we have done before, not bothered to get the registration, I'm running illegal right now, really, no registration)...


-wes

 

springdrl, If you believe that I have some swampland in Florida to sell you. Once the federal government seizes the land, it will never be held privately again. The biggest impact is that the tax base in which all landowners (myself included) will have to bear will increase as there will be fewer and fewerr landowners. Tha government candictate whether or not you can even walk on it. I know there is land right now that has been taken from unwillng landowners and is used exclusively by federal agencies and NOBODY is permitted to even walk on it. You will be charged with a federal offense of trespassing.

Think here folks. Don't let government do it for you. Thats the big problem here. We, as a country, have gotten so gluttonously fat with greed and decent economy it is being taken for granted with everybody assuming it will always be. Look at the history books, when government gets powerful there becomes two classes of people...the ultra rich and the ultra poor.

The government is here to serve the people but the people have to keep an eye on what they are doing.

 

You messed up, Gore wants to take away our guns, you ALSO did not mention that Al Gores Economic plans do not make sense.......

 

Farmr:
I'm currently trying to work out a plan, or put together an itinerary for a possible wheeling trip. I enjoy hearing about all these great trails the various people are talking about, such as the Paiute in Utah, Moab, areas in Colorado, Minnesota, etc. I'm scheduled to graduate in December from WSU, and decided that a good gift to myself for finally finishing up would be to take a trip to these various locations for a "ride" myself. I think it would be an awesome trip, one of a lifetime. If I am able to put it together, provided I can keep the cost at a respectable level, I'll probably be passing through your area at one point or another, and I'll definately look you up! I'd like to see how you guys do some trapping. My grandpa has a few old bear traps and a couple smaller ones that I think were for coyotes, but I'm not sure. I've heard that the coyotes will chew their legs off to get out though, is that true? Man, what are those idiots thinking-neutering them to control the population, but what about killing the calves, how do they explain that? Gee, uh with no testosterone levels, maybe they'll start frolicking with the calves instead of trying to eat them! Yeah, right!

We've had problems with them in the past with the cattle and sheep farmers. The sheep guys would pay up to $80 a head, so that helped keep the population low for a while. It kind of helps maintain an equilibrium of sort. They get overpopulated, run out of their main food source, start eating calves, sheep and other stock, so you hunt them down for a while, drop the levels to an appropriate level. They then have enough food to go around, their environment is at an acceptable housing level so to speak, and all is well. Couple years later, they're breeding out of control again, so the system repeats itself.

This brings up another issue about hunting deer. These enviro guys, and animal rights people that say absolutely no hunting, it's bad, well, they don't understand what happens if you don't hunt. Populations get way out of hand, food and shelter run out, starvation occurs and consequently mass death occurs. Or, should disease or sickness come through, everything is gone. You'll have tons of deer for a while, then they'll all die off due to factors such as these, and many more. Properly allowing hunters to go in and thin the populations down not only maintains a happy medium-equilibrium for the environment-but also prevents starvation, disease, and other such events that could lead to mass death.

Guess that's enough of that, we're in a political topic here, not hunting. Sorry about that.

Sayit_fmf:
I am equally impressed that this topic has attracted so much attention here (43 posts now) and yet nobody is really putting anyone down. Seems we all have varying opinions, yet respect each others. That is great to see. As for your gun issues and needing more time, well, that's the thing about it-we are in America, which stands for Freedom. You have that right to do or feel as you wish. I have mine, and while we may be different, we respect each other and everyone is happy. I think that little respect issue is one of the main factors. Most people you see today don't know, or don't care about it. We tend to develop a sense of selfishness, or it's my way or the highway and to hell with ya, which is entirely wrong in my opinion.

Anyway, not quite sure where I'm going with this. Enough with the sermon. Oh, real quick though, I am pleased to see that we've got the attention of such a wide range of people. Seems even the younger teenage guys are paying attention to the world around them, and showing an interest in the topic. Most of them couldn't care less.

Take care!

Mike

 

Let me know when you plan to head up this way. Unless it is during planting or harvest I think that I might be able to come up with something. There are no public trails near here, but our local sherriff refuses to ticket anyone on an atv going down a county (gravel or dirt) road unless they are he** raising. Funny thing, how an ELECTED law official seems to go along with what the community does as long as they do no harm. We have some land of our own to do some light trail riding on, if it comes down to it.
We raise our own hogs (have about 35 sows) and you never ate a good pork chop until you had one farm-fresh from a hand-picked hog. If you ever get it together, my e-mail is sjb@cornhusker.net and hopefully something can be worked out. Our farm is about 6 miles outside of Comstock, if you can find it on a map. Otherwise we are 16 miles West of Ord (look about dead center of a Nebraska map). If anyone else finds themselves in the middle of Nebraska, come on over! Like I said, in small groups, and driving responsibly, we can trail ride on the dirt & gravel roads around the farm.

Farmr

PS God I hope 200 people don't show up next Saturday & expect me to be ready haha. My wife likes to cook for company but not that bad!!!

 

I don't see why everyone thinks Gore is so great on education. Simply spending money doesn't make anything better. That is like a kid who wrecked 10 Yugos will somehow be a better driver if you get him a Cadillac. Here in Nebraska, we are about third from the bottom in money spent, but are fifth or sixth in student aptitude. How much money you throw at a problem doesn't mean much, what you accomplich does. One reason our schools do good is that someone is accountable for what happens, instead of adding 100 extra administrators because 'the government' will pay for it. Who pays for 'the government' - US!