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Apr 6, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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Man I am slipping today. Perhaps my posting prowess is slipping away. I'll just have to re-double my efforts.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
The Phantom......is having issues today...
The Phantom......is having issues today...
Apr 6, 2005 | 06:49 PM
#103
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What irritates me is!
Those 6-packs work pretty good.
What irritates me is!
Those 6-packs work pretty good.
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Originally posted by: RedEX
I agree with this statement if your talking about traditional 2 strokes - but what about the "next generation" ones that will be more "environmentally friendly" - how much increased cost is there to meet the 2006 standards and still maintain HP?
Originally posted by: Raptorlegs
2-strokes are cheaper to produce than 4-strokes and produce better power per cc.
2-strokes are cheaper to produce than 4-strokes and produce better power per cc.
That's true. But traditional 2-strokes never made an impact in autos in the past either. Seems like we loop around technology until it becomes economical. Today's technology is worth pennies tomorrow. We may see it again. Who knows? For example, fuel injection has been around for 50+ years but didn't become affordable until the late 80's or so?
I didn't go back and read what started this, was it the hybrid engine? Basically a 2-stroke that fired every other time? Seems like it might have had an oil splash system too. No typical 4-stroke "valve" restrictions. Interesting stuff.
Apr 6, 2005 | 06:52 PM
#104
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Hey phantom i sure hope your right about these quads coming out,because there is only a few months till the 06 models drop,there will be alot of mad people if there isn't a 450 ds and zuki.Anyways i think kawasaki has something up there sleeve for a new 06 model,i see u have 2007 kfx 250,so are you sure about it being 07 model,or just maybe an 06?
Apr 6, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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I assure you that I am hoping as much as you that what I have said somes to pass. I doubt that all I forsee will see the light of day buy my friend if I am errant in my assesment of what I know, then I expect the full wrath of those who have already laid their questions before me.
The Phantom....does speak in plain english, though his english is not plain.....
The Phantom....does speak in plain english, though his english is not plain.....
Apr 6, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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Well anyone could've forseen a KFX 250 - duh - Kawasaki already offers Suzuki's Z400, as well as the smaller 50cc & 80cc youth quads; so why not their 250?
that would be pretty cool, i dont like the kawis front hood on the 400, but the kawi z250 would be nice!! doesnt kawi already have the mojave or something?
Apr 6, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Raptorlegs
2-strokes are cheaper to produce than 4-strokes and produce better power per cc. Imagine a 2-stroke in something like the Mirano with that cvt tranny. It has potential from a performance point of view. BUT, the problem with 2-strokes is there is no dedicated lubrication system. They wear out quicker than 4-strokes. Not a big deal on recreational vehicles, but on a daily driver this would pose some problems in my mind.
Bumper to bumper 6 month 6,000 mile warranty? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: maddog56
Could someone make it work, hey why not. Would it make a damn lick of sense to put a 3-5k dollar 2 stroke engine into a 1600 pound metro that originally retailed for 1300 dollars?
Could someone make it work, hey why not. Would it make a damn lick of sense to put a 3-5k dollar 2 stroke engine into a 1600 pound metro that originally retailed for 1300 dollars?
2-strokes are cheaper to produce than 4-strokes and produce better power per cc. Imagine a 2-stroke in something like the Mirano with that cvt tranny. It has potential from a performance point of view. BUT, the problem with 2-strokes is there is no dedicated lubrication system. They wear out quicker than 4-strokes. Not a big deal on recreational vehicles, but on a daily driver this would pose some problems in my mind.
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Strip the outboard secton of it away and I'll bet it still costs you around 8k for 200 hp. How much does it costs for a GM 350 crate engine again? Yeah about 2500 bucks for 330 HP.