In a business world, a quality product will dominate.

Here is an example for the origional post for this topic.

The man who built the vibrator said "we build it and they will come"

So 2 years down the road after a few color changes etc... the product quality is still the same, let say they changed from Duracell batteries to Samsung and the samsung's always went prematurely dead. Does this make the product bad ? No.

Honda still builds the quality product of old, something that keeps them coming, but their 'battery supplier' does not meet standards of old.

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If this were true, how do you explain Walmart?
Biggest growing chain in the world. Are you saying that they sell a quality product? Ha ha ha ha........

Look at chainsaws. Most of the known makes that were around years ago are now gone. Replaced by plastic junk.

Look at power equipment. Same deal............and on and on and on..............For the most part, if you own a company and make a quality part or product, your going out of business.

 

hehehe, Wal Mart does not produce their own product like Honda does. They purchase items in bulk, sell them out then you can't get them from Wal Mart anymore when they are gone.
Honda and Wal Mart operate in to totaly different spectrums of market.
I see where you are coming from on the power equiptment deal. There are a lot of companies out there who manufacture throw away products. Honda power equiptment products still have parts available for their products from way back when.
Once again I will state that Honda will be around for a while, because of prefered quality products throught all their lines of products.

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I see your point Gimpster; but don't totally agree with you. When you give blanket statements like:
"In a business world, a quality product will dominate."

The American public is always looking for a bargin!!!!

Look at the new ***** stuff on the market. ( my apologies to those of Chinese decent) Not even close to Honda or any of the big 5, but people are snapping them up like 10 cent beers.

IMHO Honda is getting by with branding. When Honda first came out, the best of the best was Harley, Indian, and Norton. Ha ha ha, that was the best!!! Honda just killed the market with the 750-4. Now there was a bike!!! Fast as f....k, super reliable, good MPG; just a super all around bike for the time. Nothing could touch it. NOTHING!!!

Fast foward 40 years. Indian is done; Norton is done, and Harley was almost done in by AMF. Honda...........well..........they are still hanging in their with branding......and do a VERY good job at that with it!!! After all; who could sell a 2000 quad with drum brakes and a pushrod engine? Answer HONDA!! There is no way any of the other 4 could do that!!!! Not even close!!!

IMHO, Honda is in coast mode. Nothing fancy, nothing trick. Just relieing on branding.

That can only go so far. One of these days Honda is going to have to pull out the stoppes and lay down the smack. They have the staff to do it. It's just a matter of time before they make another 750-4!!!!

Would you agree Gimpster?

 

hehehe, OK.... So I may have had a little too much bathwater to drink when I made the 'dominate' statement.
Times have changed since old man Honda sent his people over here to scam on the market of scooters in which they planned to flood the states with. That's for sure.
During the days of real bikes (as you mentioned) Hondas were concidered Jap Crap. And that was it. If you were caught riding one you were looked on as some kind of panzie or something. Then came the day my pops rode a Honda 305 Dream into the yard. Man did mom rip him a new one ! I just put my tail between my legs and hid from my buddies. (I still have that bike in my warehouse and it runs) Times were changing.
750 4's... I still have a clear cylinder replacement and stud shims so we could watch the valve timing to dial the cams in. hahaha, we never measured, we just made sure the intake wouldn't catch the piston between their travels. With the good premium fuel back then, they would get up pretty good and scat past the neighbors ride.
Now days I see one scheduled in for service, I nearly cringe just thinking of how dumb we were to be riding those old thugs that fast with the suspention they had to offer.
That was back when they were a leader in the powersports industry. Hey, I also think they need to come out of sleep mode and grab the bull by the horns. Seems they have lost grip on being a powersports leader. We all know they are totally capable of being a leader. The past decade it seems as though they have taken a back seat ride to the others. No big quads, inovative suspention dazlers, exotic engine improvements etc. Instead it seems that they keep holding on to what they have. Just schmoozing on and on while other MFG's have knocked at their door and worn past their inovations of technology and new sought after units.
Will they make a big foreward leap after the dealer meeting, I dought it. They will probably only open the door a little wider to more fuel injected units using existing engine platforms.
I will admit that someone neede so lift the blanket off Honda to let some light in, so they can reflect more back at the public letting us die hard Honda people know that they still can shine.
Who knows though, a month, 2 months, a year, I may not be with a Honda dealer any longer and it won't matter to me any longer.

Been a good chat so far Doc... Thanks for strummin' the memory about the old 750's


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