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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 01:06 AM
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Mx700,
Hasn't died yet I am waiting for parts I have ordered which should be in this week. Nabor Ford has graciously supplied me with a V700 to play with. If I can get the ignition to stay cool it will be a major boost for the 700 and 650.

So far the clutch, intake, carbs have gone under a major reconstruction. The clutch has lost 700 grams, intake is almost at zero to exhaust pressure. I have noticed some subtle differences from the 02 650 clutch and the V700 clutch though. I wonder if the 03 clutch and the V700 are similiar and if the P700 and V700 clutch are the same??

I am hoping with the ignition the V700 will hit or get close to 100mph !!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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100mph!!!! Oh yeah! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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drrooool.........[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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I have an idea that would turn the v-force into a 100 MPH plus machine,

it would require some changes, but I don't think anything would touch it.

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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 11:23 AM
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well shotgun, what say you?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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I had a thought last night or was it this morning in the shower? Can't remember, anyways I had a thought.

The belt rides low on the secondary clutch when its nearing the top speed, is that correct? If it is then if we can make a device that would compress the secondary cluth the belt would ride higher and create a taller gear, correct? This would make our top speed much faster I think.

Am I thinking correctly? Or was I half asleep in the shower?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by: SHOTGUN
I have an idea that would turn the v-force into a 100 MPH plus machine,

it would require some changes, but I don't think anything would touch it.

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I know what would be required to change if my Force went 100. My shorts. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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we need to be smaller in the secondary and larger in the primary for more speed.

Our problem is the primary won't close enough for the belt we have. The primary squeezes the belt, forceing it higher in the sheves, but doesn't force it all the way to the top like it should. This force is what pulls the belt down in the secondary.

Find us a belt that is wider and slightly longer, that would be good for 10 MPH more.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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SHOTGUN...Nyroc & I were going back & forth on another post about weights... do you see any reason that the weights could not be skeletonized with holes, then certain holes filled with lead ( soldered in so to speak, a small quantity of tin could be added to the lead to raise the melting point, & or make the lead harder )... this way, they could be easily expiremented with ( added where it's needed, or easily redrilled out ), the weight may do us more good on the leading edge, or the trailing edge of the weight, not just the bottom, middle, or top of the weight...I'm seriously looking at purchasing a completely new '03 primary & secondary clutch basket & 700 belt... allowing me to expirement more easily with my old '02 clutches...I'm going to have a local machinist make me up a few shapes of these skeletonized weights ( various curves ) to play with, after I get through with my last hare scramble races... also contemplating having new sheeves machined ( larger diameter, steeper pitch, less "foot", allowing the sheeves to go together closer, etc... )...I think the skeletonized weights would carry less wind ressistance, & if they were the proper weights, may offer performance advantages them selves...

I think there are as much gains to be made in clutching these CVT's as there is nearly, in ignition...WAM
 
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 02:59 PM
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Shotgun, you posted a while back about machineing some material off the drive clutch so ot will close more, allowing the belt the ride higher and give it more top speed , what do you machine? the sheaves? and how much do you take off? I wouldn't want the belt to walk completely off the pully's! LOL I see your point, If I did this i just don't want ot have too much took off and the belt do what i just said........
 
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