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Old 07-10-2005 | 01:25 PM
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I got my scrambler 500 in 04' and the kids wanted one to. I got the power wheels quads and they were happy. Since then I have rebuilt them and replaced the electrical switches and added RC car modified motors and they just fly. The problem is it now kills the battery in half the time. So my wife and I decided that santa was going to be bringing new quads this year. I have 3 kids, girl-7, boys-4 and 2. My 4 year old is the same weight as my daughter, hes not fat just really strong and she is really skiny. The 2 year old is now driving the modded power wheels with no problem( I was amazed how fast he caught on) it goes 8-10mph. Since they are experienced should I look into 90cc quads or a 90 and a 50, or just two 50s? I just don't want them to get bored with them.

I plan on buying them from racewayatv because I have heard nothing but great things about them everywhere I read. If they decide they want to race at the local track would they be way behind the compatition with a Kazuma 50? Or are these comparable to say an LT50?

Thanks for any advice!
 
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Old 07-10-2005 | 01:52 PM
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Here's something I posted in another forum.....

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Luckily, I'm not brand specific. Although, I do have my favorite brands for certain riding conditions.


While picking a motocross or mini-quad bike, try to keep the following on your checklist:

1 - Body Fit. To me, this is the most critical. The bike shouldn't be too large and shouldn't be too small. From a sizing perspective, try to fit within a 3 year growth range. On the 4th year, upgrade to a larger size frame.

2 - Laws within your area. Depending on the age of the young rider and if you plan to riding on Public trails, your young rider may be forced to ride a bike that is "physically" too small for them. For example, very large kid for their age. To me, an over sized "top end heavy" rider is more dangerious then being on too large of a bike. I know one guy who decided NOT to put his young rider on a mini-quad. They ran motocross bikes for 4 years, then switched back to quads. For him, putting his large size kid on a small mini-quad wasn't worth the safety risk. In his area, their motocross to engine size laws are NOT as strict. "Proper body size" on a motocross bike was the law they ended up going with.

3 - Driver's control & safety features. Some young riders love foot brakes. They adapt to foot brakes much better then hand lever systems. Other young riders adapt to either btaking control. If trail riding, daytime running lights are mandatory (from a safety perspective). Wide rear tires are great for the mud / snow. Some young riders want electric start. Some young riders want (need) reverse. Some young riders adapt to shifting gears and other's don't. Some young riders need lots of suspension. Other young riders don't drive too wild on the trails. And other kids adapt to control features of the bike and others don't feel right on certain brands. As a suggestion, ask the young rider to sit (and if possible, TRY) many different brands of bikes. They will tell you what they like or don't like in each brand.

4 - Parts availability. Even the "best of the best" bikes on the market will eventually need brake pads, air filter materials, sprocket replacements, etc. If you go for an inexpensive "across the Internet purchase", you may get a great initial deal. But, ensure you can also get general maintenance parts for it later on.

5 - Performance upgrades. Depending upon your unique riding conditions, you may want to upgrade the suspension, upgrade the pipe, upgrade the air filter, etc. etc. in order to get more or better performance. If you can't get better shocks or a pipe for that brand of bike, your young rider may be forced to ride "as is" until they upgrade. At a minimum, do ensure your bike has really great suspension. Besides ease of rider controls, good suspension is a safety feature that many people over look.

6 - Brakes. Many people provide recommendations (and their secrets) on how to make a mini go faster. Faster then "the Jones's bike". To me, one should always focus on making a bike "stop faster". That being said, do focus on Hydro "Disc" brake systems. If possible, get one with a foot control. Making a mini stop is much more important then making it go faster. IMO: Disc brakes are much better in the curd & water compared to drum brakes. Especially cable based drum brake systems.

7 - Riding conditions. Generally spreaking, 4 stroke with sealed magnetos and sealed trannys can handle water much better then 2 strokes with vented stators and vented CVTs. You can run a 2 stroke in water above the running boards but the more you do it, the more it raises the risk of damage. I know because we had to replace the stator system in our 2 stroke mini-quad. Way too much water above the running boards. If your young riders is a "mud runner", try to stick with a 4 stroke that has sealed tranny and sealed electrical system.


With these and many other "focus points" in mind, investigate the many different bikes (motocross & youth quads) in your area. Make a "list of features & controls" and when visiting each dealer, record what you like or don't like about each specific bike. This "score card grid" also makes one look past the color and focus more on the technology. To me, underlying "solid technology" is the foundation for a safe the enjoyable ride.


Hope this general information helps....

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With this in mind, focus on body fit, local laws in your area and performance upgrade options. Especially if your young riders go into racing....

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Old 07-10-2005 | 01:58 PM
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My take on it is either get a 90 or a 70 for the 7yo, a 50 for the 4yo and keep the 2yo on the power wheels for a while still. If your 7yo is interested in racing, I'd suggest a 70cc, as she will have 4 more years left to race in ATVA racing on that quad, and the 90cc racing is very fast and not for the beginner. For the 4yo, the ATVA 50 Limited class is where he'd start at... I know as bad as my 2yo wants to race with his sister (she races a highly modified Polaris Scrambler in 70cc Production Class)he wont' be for another 2 to 3 years.

As fas as racing... the Kazuma 50 won't compete against other 50s such as the DRR, Kasea, Eton, Polaris, etc. The main reason is the lack of front suspension and brakes and the 4stroke motor. I have yet to see a 50cc 4stroke show up to race as the 2 stroke 50s will just blow it away in power. The Kazuma 50's just not a race quad and really can't be made into one.

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Old 07-10-2005 | 09:23 PM
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Thanks for all the great info. I guess I will need to decide if racing will be something she will want to do.
 
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Old 07-10-2005 | 09:45 PM
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Default Need advice for new kids quads.

Either way, having the potential to bump the power as the child gains experience beats trading quads in 2 years.
 
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Old 07-11-2005 | 05:32 PM
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My idea was get a 50 and a 90(or 70) and when my son gets old enough to drive the 90(2-3 years) my youngest should be ready for the 50 and I would just have to get another 90 and they would be good to go for another 2-3 years until my daughter got bored on the 90 and she would be old enough to decide what she wants. At that time the youngest would be on the 90 and I could sell the 50.
 
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Old 07-11-2005 | 09:04 PM
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Default Need advice for new kids quads.

For the 4 year old, look at the Kasea mini-skyhawk 50. Typically costs as much as $500 less than an lt50 and has a cvt. It's a better quad. I wouldn't put a 4 year old on a full size mini.

Don't buy the Kazuma 50. Do a search. It has problems to say the least.
 
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Old 07-11-2005 | 10:16 PM
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The 4 year old has been riding a modded power wheels that goes around 8-10 MPH and has been riding it since he was 2. He is a very good rider so he should be fine right? From what I read the newer kazuma is very good. There seems to be a few small problems that are easy to fix, but other than that I heard real good things about them for the price($550 shipped to door).

I will look into the kasea and check the prices. Thanks for the info!!
 
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Old 07-12-2005 | 12:09 AM
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Default Need advice for new kids quads.

Don't let price be the ONLY factor. About 50 million cracked intakes. Some 3-4 times. No front suspension. Semi-auto versus full auto.

Your money though.
 
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