What is really going on in Michigan
May 23, 2006 | 11:03 AM
#871
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What is really going on in Michigan
Originally posted by: Theotherguy
Actually Blackballed I was just waiting for you to answer some of the questions posed to you before I started answering any of your questions. Or have you forgot the questions I posed to you on page 5 of this thread, or were you wishing that I had forgotten. Not to mention several questions directed toward yourself by the moderator of this forum.
You see, you now demand answers to questions you pose to us at the same time you still refuse to answer those simple questions asked of you. Turn about is fair play, no?
Actually Blackballed I was just waiting for you to answer some of the questions posed to you before I started answering any of your questions. Or have you forgot the questions I posed to you on page 5 of this thread, or were you wishing that I had forgotten. Not to mention several questions directed toward yourself by the moderator of this forum.
You see, you now demand answers to questions you pose to us at the same time you still refuse to answer those simple questions asked of you. Turn about is fair play, no?
May 23, 2006 | 11:25 AM
#872
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What is really going on in Michigan
Originally posted by: mywifesquad
My questions were very complex and I offended BB by using the word "ROAD". [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
My questions were very complex and I offended BB by using the word "ROAD". [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Watch and see what his next steps will be. He will,
1. not post in here for a few days, OR
2. change the subject by bringing an obscure sentance into view he found on some other website, stated by some other person, somewhere last year, sometime, over a long dead issue. OR
3. he will attempt to call us names or insult us thus hoping we create a kneejerk reaction and state something he actually wants to know, OR
4. all of the above
Which will it be, Catagory 1, Catagory 2, Catagory 3, or Catagory 4. And which one will be the Double Jeapordy Round? I'm all guiddy with anticipation!!
May 23, 2006 | 11:53 AM
#874
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What is really going on in Michigan
Originally posted by: Theotherguy
Watch and see what his next steps will be. He will,
1. not post in here for a few days, OR
2. change the subject by bringing an obscure sentance into view he found on some other website, stated by some other person, somewhere last year, sometime, over a long dead issue. OR
3. he will attempt to call us names or insult us thus hoping we create a kneejerk reaction and state something he actually wants to know, OR
4. all of the above
Which will it be, Catagory 1, Catagory 2, Catagory 3, or Catagory 4. And which one will be the Double Jeapordy Round? I'm all guiddy with anticipation!!
Originally posted by: mywifesquad
My questions were very complex and I offended BB by using the word "ROAD". [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
My questions were very complex and I offended BB by using the word "ROAD". [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Watch and see what his next steps will be. He will,
1. not post in here for a few days, OR
2. change the subject by bringing an obscure sentance into view he found on some other website, stated by some other person, somewhere last year, sometime, over a long dead issue. OR
3. he will attempt to call us names or insult us thus hoping we create a kneejerk reaction and state something he actually wants to know, OR
4. all of the above
Which will it be, Catagory 1, Catagory 2, Catagory 3, or Catagory 4. And which one will be the Double Jeapordy Round? I'm all guiddy with anticipation!!
May 24, 2006 | 09:29 PM
#875
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What is really going on in Michigan
I just had to post with one more reason why I hate 50" trail. Drummond island was recentely made wider from single track to 50"+ trail. The drummond 4x4 leader along with the DNR trail analist for the UP got together and between the 2 of them made a decision that affected the entire state and changed the trails to 50"
Well I gotta admit that the trails on the island are nasty enough that a little extra room dont hurt. BUT what does bother me is what I heard was going on this last weekend.
A friend of mine was out there atving with friends. He informed me that they were riding on a tight atv trail. They were all on 4x4 quads and it was tight for them. Well they seen taillights ahead. As they came up on these lights they were stunned at what they saw.
4x4 jeeps were driving down the 50" orv trail. They were crawling up on a tree with one tire then dropping down on the other side to get thru because the trail was too tight for the jeeps wheelbase. This is only the start. One jeep goes thru and before you know it they all are going thru and then this once tight 40" single track is now a rutted out muddy 2-track that is 30ft wide. Give them an inch and they take a mile every time. Pisses me off to no end.
Well I gotta admit that the trails on the island are nasty enough that a little extra room dont hurt. BUT what does bother me is what I heard was going on this last weekend.
A friend of mine was out there atving with friends. He informed me that they were riding on a tight atv trail. They were all on 4x4 quads and it was tight for them. Well they seen taillights ahead. As they came up on these lights they were stunned at what they saw.
4x4 jeeps were driving down the 50" orv trail. They were crawling up on a tree with one tire then dropping down on the other side to get thru because the trail was too tight for the jeeps wheelbase. This is only the start. One jeep goes thru and before you know it they all are going thru and then this once tight 40" single track is now a rutted out muddy 2-track that is 30ft wide. Give them an inch and they take a mile every time. Pisses me off to no end.
May 24, 2006 | 10:50 PM
#876
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What is really going on in Michigan
Originally posted by: YZman400
4x4 jeeps were driving down the 50" orv trail. They were crawling up on a tree with one tire then dropping down on the other side to get thru because the trail was too tight for the jeeps wheelbase. This is only the start. One jeep goes thru and before you know it they all are going thru and then this once tight 40" single track is now a rutted out muddy 2-track that is 30ft wide. Give them an inch and they take a mile every time. Pisses me off to no end.
4x4 jeeps were driving down the 50" orv trail. They were crawling up on a tree with one tire then dropping down on the other side to get thru because the trail was too tight for the jeeps wheelbase. This is only the start. One jeep goes thru and before you know it they all are going thru and then this once tight 40" single track is now a rutted out muddy 2-track that is 30ft wide. Give them an inch and they take a mile every time. Pisses me off to no end.
ROAD
May 24, 2006 | 11:24 PM
#877
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What is really going on in Michigan
Originally posted by: YZman400
"...I just had to post with one more reason why I hate 50" trail....Give them an inch and they take a mile every time. Pisses me off to no end...."
"...I just had to post with one more reason why I hate 50" trail....Give them an inch and they take a mile every time. Pisses me off to no end...."
For pete's sake, people...if you were an atver on their forum talking trash like the above...you'd be flamed right out of the darn site! (which is why these guys act like they do <U>in</U> <U>every</U> <U>arena</U> <U>they</U> <U>enter</U> here in Michigan...they have absolutely NO opposition!).
Question: Is WyWife'sQuad a "moderator" here....or simply a "back-patter" for every new cyclist who comes up here with something negative to say concerning our sport and the concept of multi-use vs "me-only" trails?
May 25, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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BB Quote*
Question: Is WyWife'sQuad a "moderator" here....or simply a "back-patter" for every new cyclist who comes up here with something negative to say concerning our sport and the concept of multi-use vs "me-only" trails?
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If MWQ really is a moderator of this forum, and having had previous knowledge in regards to the HUGE amount of ATV forums that he has been BANNED from using over the last 5 years for displaying the same arrogant behaviour he does in THIS forum, than WHY would MWQ allow someone like BB to continue on? The answer is real simple,
''HE's John Stears from Kalamazoo, Michigan and is eating those weenies at that next ''big ride''
Question: Is WyWife'sQuad a "moderator" here....or simply a "back-patter" for every new cyclist who comes up here with something negative to say concerning our sport and the concept of multi-use vs "me-only" trails?
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If MWQ really is a moderator of this forum, and having had previous knowledge in regards to the HUGE amount of ATV forums that he has been BANNED from using over the last 5 years for displaying the same arrogant behaviour he does in THIS forum, than WHY would MWQ allow someone like BB to continue on? The answer is real simple,
''HE's John Stears from Kalamazoo, Michigan and is eating those weenies at that next ''big ride''
May 25, 2006 | 08:31 AM
#879
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What is really going on in Michigan
MWQ is a moderator. And a riding enthusiast. Doesn't ride strictly motorcycles.
Maybe some people should be patting him on the back for allowing this thread to go as long as it has. Many others on this site have been locked due to the imature name calling and personal attacks.
Maybe this thread has finally come to that point.
Maybe some people should be patting him on the back for allowing this thread to go as long as it has. Many others on this site have been locked due to the imature name calling and personal attacks.
Maybe this thread has finally come to that point.
May 25, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by: Scootergptx
MWQ is a moderator. And a riding enthusiast. Doesn't ride strictly motorcycles.Maybe some people should be patting him on the back for allowing this thread to go as long as it has....
MWQ is a moderator. And a riding enthusiast. Doesn't ride strictly motorcycles.Maybe some people should be patting him on the back for allowing this thread to go as long as it has....
Thank God that we've at least had 'Dragginbut' up here over the years to simply stand up ***<u>like</u> <u>a</u> <u>man</u>*** for our all-inclusive sport and the concept of true multi-use v.s."me-only" trail systems.
Again, it's not people like TOG or MWQ that are the problem here....it's the overwhelming balance of members in this forum who allow statements such as ' 50" trails lead to roads' to be passed off as <u>fact</u>. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]