What is really going on in Michigan
May 18, 2006 | 11:23 PM
#851
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What is really going on in Michigan
No offense taken at all,you've proved my point. No where did I state that you must join our club and PAY first before we can answer your questions.The entire forum is open to everyone [unless you've been banned] to ask questions of their choice with the exception of the 'members only' section of the same clubs website.
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Yet if you just want to worry about who brings those weenies to that next 'big ride'... or just what the next club t-shirt or bumper stickers are going to look like, fine!
I'm John Stears from Kalamazoo, Michigan and am proud of it.
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Yet if you just want to worry about who brings those weenies to that next 'big ride'... or just what the next club t-shirt or bumper stickers are going to look like, fine!
I'm John Stears from Kalamazoo, Michigan and am proud of it.
May 18, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
"....Could you please point out to me and all the rest of the veiwers WHERE I even remotely stated that I wanted ANY of you in here to go and visit a private forum and pay for membership in a club before we would answer any of your questions?Because I cant find one word of a request like this.Thank you. Bill
"....Could you please point out to me and all the rest of the veiwers WHERE I even remotely stated that I wanted ANY of you in here to go and visit a private forum and pay for membership in a club before we would answer any of your questions?Because I cant find one word of a request like this.Thank you. Bill
"...And I guess I dont understand WHY you think our ATVOC forum should not have a privacy section of our forum for members only exclusive use? The members of ATVOC are PAYING customers and should CERTAINLY have a place for exclusive privacy <u>away</u> from non members who are to <u>tight</u> to get off their wallets to support the club.
If you dont agree with ATVOC agenda's, than why in the world do you think ANY of us would want you to have access to what PAYING members have to say in thier own section of the members only forum?..."
May 18, 2006 | 11:39 PM
#853
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
No offense taken at all,you've proved my point. No where did I state that you must join our club and PAY first before we can answer your questions.The entire forum is open to everyone [unless you've been banned] to ask questions of their choice with the exception of the 'members only' section of the same clubs website.
Thank You.
No offense taken at all,you've proved my point. No where did I state that you must join our club and PAY first before we can answer your questions.The entire forum is open to everyone [unless you've been banned] to ask questions of their choice with the exception of the 'members only' section of the same clubs website.
Thank You.
Since you do not answer questions, how could you prove you would answer questions in some private forum.
"the exception of the 'members only' section of the same clubs website"
Mud, some advice, take your ORV out to the trails and ride the trails.
I had a great time last weekend riding the ORV trails.
Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
And I guess I dont understand WHY you think our ATVOC forum should not have a privacy section of our forum for members only exclusive use? The members of ATVOC are PAYING customers and should CERTAINLY have a place for exclusive privacy away from non members who are to tight to get off their wallets to support the club.
If you dont agree with ATVOC agenda's, than why in the world do you think ANY of us would want you to have access to what PAYING members have to say in thier own section of the members only forum?
And I guess I dont understand WHY you think our ATVOC forum should not have a privacy section of our forum for members only exclusive use? The members of ATVOC are PAYING customers and should CERTAINLY have a place for exclusive privacy away from non members who are to tight to get off their wallets to support the club.
If you dont agree with ATVOC agenda's, than why in the world do you think ANY of us would want you to have access to what PAYING members have to say in thier own section of the members only forum?
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May 19, 2006 | 05:25 AM
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You proved your points by not answering anything again...and you found that reply button
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I've said it before and I'll say it again,there are a very FEW ORV idiots/jerks like BB that will find issues with ANY answer that ANYONE may give to ANY question that someone may ask in here. If you feel like sitting by your PC all day long with a carton of Twinkies and a case of Pepsi [as BB appearantly does] waiting to spread even more rumors and BS,than thats YOUR perogative,I choose not to be part of his game anymore.--------------------
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Since you do not answer questions, how could you prove you would answer questions in some private forum
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I guess you'll never know the answer to that since you've indicated that you have little/no interest in asking the question in that forum,so thats your problem. No one can force you to take your questions over there.------------------------------------------
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
And I guess I dont understand WHY you think our ATVOC forum should not have a privacy section of our forum for members only exclusive use? The members of ATVOC are PAYING customers and should CERTAINLY have a place for exclusive privacy away from non members who are to tight to get off their wallets to support the club.
If you dont agree with ATVOC agenda's, than why in the world do you think ANY of us would want you to have access to what PAYING members have to say in thier own section of the members only forum END of Quote*
You appearantly have issues with the ATVOC having ONE private section of their ENTIRE forum for the exclusive use of their paying members? Im guessing your the type of guy that would borrow your buddies car [full of fuel] to use for a 300 mile road trip and bring it back on EMPTY and think nothing of it.You make it sound as though the ONE PRIVATE section of our ATVOC forum is the ONLY place in our ENTIRE forum to ask questions, and your dead wrong about that.
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Yet if you just want to worry about who brings those weenies to that next 'big ride'... or just what the next club t-shirt or bumper stickers are going to look like, fine!
I'm John Stears from Kalamazoo, Michigan and am proud of it.
You proved your points by not answering anything again...and you found that reply button
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I've said it before and I'll say it again,there are a very FEW ORV idiots/jerks like BB that will find issues with ANY answer that ANYONE may give to ANY question that someone may ask in here. If you feel like sitting by your PC all day long with a carton of Twinkies and a case of Pepsi [as BB appearantly does] waiting to spread even more rumors and BS,than thats YOUR perogative,I choose not to be part of his game anymore.--------------------
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Since you do not answer questions, how could you prove you would answer questions in some private forum
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I guess you'll never know the answer to that since you've indicated that you have little/no interest in asking the question in that forum,so thats your problem. No one can force you to take your questions over there.------------------------------------------
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
And I guess I dont understand WHY you think our ATVOC forum should not have a privacy section of our forum for members only exclusive use? The members of ATVOC are PAYING customers and should CERTAINLY have a place for exclusive privacy away from non members who are to tight to get off their wallets to support the club.
If you dont agree with ATVOC agenda's, than why in the world do you think ANY of us would want you to have access to what PAYING members have to say in thier own section of the members only forum END of Quote*
You appearantly have issues with the ATVOC having ONE private section of their ENTIRE forum for the exclusive use of their paying members? Im guessing your the type of guy that would borrow your buddies car [full of fuel] to use for a 300 mile road trip and bring it back on EMPTY and think nothing of it.You make it sound as though the ONE PRIVATE section of our ATVOC forum is the ONLY place in our ENTIRE forum to ask questions, and your dead wrong about that.
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Yet if you just want to worry about who brings those weenies to that next 'big ride'... or just what the next club t-shirt or bumper stickers are going to look like, fine!
I'm John Stears from Kalamazoo, Michigan and am proud of it.
May 19, 2006 | 09:11 AM
#855
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
"...You make it sound as though the ONE PRIVATE section of our ATVOC forum is the ONLY place in our ENTIRE forum to ask questions, and your dead wrong about that...."
"...You make it sound as though the ONE PRIVATE section of our ATVOC forum is the ONLY place in our ENTIRE forum to ask questions, and your dead wrong about that...."
Both incarnations of this topic heading contained more information than what was ever previously availiable in Michigan concerning the issues which currently face our sport....and both were amongst the most popular/hottest conversational topics to ever grace <u>either.</u> (witness this thread that atv connection has hosted in the absence of all other two-way conversational info availiable in Michigan without <u>paying</u> for it through "non-profit" club leadership).
These topics are "hot" all right.....and that is exactly why these so-called 'leaders" don't want a darn thing to do with them. If a guy refuses to even reveal what the heck happened at the public meeting last week..he sure as heck isn't going to answer questions in anything but a controlled setting similiar to our strictly <u>one-way</u> orv advisory board meetings.
May 19, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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C'mon, Muddy....the same guy who flat out eliminated the only topic heading availiable for answering legislative/political questions in your previous club (these being questions put forth to a then sitting orv advisory board member)...is the same individual who just recently eliminated the very same "Atv Politics" topic heading in your very own current forum
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Nobody eliminated any area of political talk in our ATVOC forums.We talk politics all the time in our forum---Dont smack mouth us just because YOU lost the priveledge to see or post in Michigans most popular ATV site.
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Yet if you just want to worry about who brings those weenies to that next 'big ride'... or just what the next club t-shirt or bumper stickers are going to look like, fine!
I'm John Stears from Kalamazoo, Michigan and am proud of it
C'mon, Muddy....the same guy who flat out eliminated the only topic heading availiable for answering legislative/political questions in your previous club (these being questions put forth to a then sitting orv advisory board member)...is the same individual who just recently eliminated the very same "Atv Politics" topic heading in your very own current forum
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Nobody eliminated any area of political talk in our ATVOC forums.We talk politics all the time in our forum---Dont smack mouth us just because YOU lost the priveledge to see or post in Michigans most popular ATV site.
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Yet if you just want to worry about who brings those weenies to that next 'big ride'... or just what the next club t-shirt or bumper stickers are going to look like, fine!
I'm John Stears from Kalamazoo, Michigan and am proud of it
May 19, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
"....Nobody eliminated any area of political talk in our ATVOC forums...."
"....Nobody eliminated any area of political talk in our ATVOC forums...."
otherwise.....guess who that just might be? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Again, you can repeatedly catch these guys in even the boldest of untruths....yet they possess absolutely no shame in dishing them out day after day! (with the <U>sad</U> part being that <U>every</U> <U>one</U> of his fellow club members will swear to the 'fact' that this topic never existed!....)
May 19, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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If there isn't a person on here who doesn't remember the "Bar and Grill/Atv Politics" heading just recently eliminated in your forum....you can call me a liar.
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This BAR/GRILL POLITICS section was never 'eliminated', it was reworded and called the MUDHOLE. ----------liar!
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Yet if you just want to worry about who brings those weenies to that next 'big ride'... or just what the next club t-shirt or bumper stickers are going to look like, fine!
I'm John Stears from Kalamazoo, Michigan and am proud of it
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This BAR/GRILL POLITICS section was never 'eliminated', it was reworded and called the MUDHOLE. ----------liar!
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Yet if you just want to worry about who brings those weenies to that next 'big ride'... or just what the next club t-shirt or bumper stickers are going to look like, fine!
I'm John Stears from Kalamazoo, Michigan and am proud of it
May 19, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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These guys are a hoot....they take the same yanked political topic we've been discussing here off the board months ago....then bring the topic back (yesterday?) out of 'nowhere'.... yet list it as being locked and "private"...out of the blue! (one can only surmise that having a 'member's only' section wasn't quite enough 'hook'...and that advertising the one subject in it (?) as being "unavailable to the rest of you peons" might entice the curious into sending in the cash required to access/unlock this unusable topic?).
Meanwhile....Muddy's still out here calling us all liars and claiming that the largest topic heading they've ever had from the beginning....is "actually" a name change from the very topic right <u>next</u> to it!. http://www.atvoffroad.net/forums/index.php
Hey, it's never boring! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Meanwhile....Muddy's still out here calling us all liars and claiming that the largest topic heading they've ever had from the beginning....is "actually" a name change from the very topic right <u>next</u> to it!. http://www.atvoffroad.net/forums/index.php
Hey, it's never boring! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
May 19, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Im sorry, but my pig latin interpetation is lacking and im unable to comprehend one word of BB's jibber/jabber in most of his posts,but that last one really takes the cake.
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Yet if you just want to worry about who brings those weenies to that next 'big ride'... or just what the next club t-shirt or bumper stickers are going to look like, fine!
I'm John Stears from Kalamazoo, Michigan and am proud of it.
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Yet if you just want to worry about who brings those weenies to that next 'big ride'... or just what the next club t-shirt or bumper stickers are going to look like, fine!
I'm John Stears from Kalamazoo, Michigan and am proud of it.