85 to 88 Suzuki LT230S Quadsport help.
#5611
03-02-2009, 08:55 PM
85 to 88 Suzuki LT230S Quadsport help.
im just a city garbage man..
thats how i found my 230...i was picking the previous owners trash up and he was going to scrap the 230. two month later i talked him into trading it for around 25 PlayStation games
what are your names on ebay? i think it would be cool to se some of the stuff you guys are selling on ebay..
mines
hnr914
thats how i found my 230...i was picking the previous owners trash up and he was going to scrap the 230. two month later i talked him into trading it for around 25 PlayStation games
what are your names on ebay? i think it would be cool to se some of the stuff you guys are selling on ebay..
mines
hnr914
#5612
03-02-2009, 09:28 PM
85 to 88 Suzuki LT230S Quadsport help.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: lOOtin LeNNy
im just a city garbage man..
thats how i found my 230...i was picking the previous owners trash up and he was going to scrap the 230. two month later i talked him into trading it for around 25 PlayStation games
what are your names on ebay? i think it would be cool to se some of the stuff you guys are selling on ebay..
mines
hnr914</end quote></div>
I'm poolgod230, original huh?[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img] I have yet to sell on ebay, I really should though, with all the stuff I have I could more than make up for the cuts in time and pay me and the ole lady have takin in the past few months............
im just a city garbage man..
thats how i found my 230...i was picking the previous owners trash up and he was going to scrap the 230. two month later i talked him into trading it for around 25 PlayStation games
what are your names on ebay? i think it would be cool to se some of the stuff you guys are selling on ebay..
mines
hnr914</end quote></div>
I'm poolgod230, original huh?[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img] I have yet to sell on ebay, I really should though, with all the stuff I have I could more than make up for the cuts in time and pay me and the ole lady have takin in the past few months............
#5613
03-02-2009, 10:29 PM
85 to 88 Suzuki LT230S Quadsport help.
Maybe peddling stuff on ebay should be my new job instead of trying to guess where the market is heading day after day. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Been trading stocks since 2003. A guy I've been talking to has turned me on to forex. I think I might give that a try. Couldn't be any worse than stocks and its open 24hrs a day. Plenty of time to lose all my money. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Been trading stocks since 2003. A guy I've been talking to has turned me on to forex. I think I might give that a try. Couldn't be any worse than stocks and its open 24hrs a day. Plenty of time to lose all my money. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
#5614
03-02-2009, 10:41 PM
85 to 88 Suzuki LT230S Quadsport help.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: PoolGod230
Perhaps the most cogent statement ever made regarding the redistribution of wealth.
It's also a wonderful explanation of why the "Stimulus" Bill and other socialist scams don't work:
"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
~~ The late Dr. Adrian Rogers</end quote></div>
That sounds logical to me.
Perhaps the most cogent statement ever made regarding the redistribution of wealth.
It's also a wonderful explanation of why the "Stimulus" Bill and other socialist scams don't work:
"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
~~ The late Dr. Adrian Rogers</end quote></div>
That sounds logical to me.
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03-02-2009, 11:46 PM
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85 to 88 Suzuki LT230S Quadsport help.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JustRandy
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Quadsport_Scotty
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JustRandy
Hey Scotty, did you read the post about measuring your tierods?</end quote></div>
Nope...missed that one somehow...how far back is it?</end quote></div>
Not far. Atvman needs to know how long your tierods are so he knows if he was ripped off or not.</end quote></div>
Yeah it's back two pages at most, right under all my pictures. I just am curious how long the 250S tie rods are because the ones I ordered on eBay said they were for the 250S, but they aren't any longer than my 230 ones.
If you could just roughly measure them for me, that'd be great.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Quadsport_Scotty
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JustRandy
Hey Scotty, did you read the post about measuring your tierods?</end quote></div>
Nope...missed that one somehow...how far back is it?</end quote></div>
Not far. Atvman needs to know how long your tierods are so he knows if he was ripped off or not.</end quote></div>
Yeah it's back two pages at most, right under all my pictures. I just am curious how long the 250S tie rods are because the ones I ordered on eBay said they were for the 250S, but they aren't any longer than my 230 ones.
If you could just roughly measure them for me, that'd be great.
#5616
03-03-2009, 12:50 AM
85 to 88 Suzuki LT230S Quadsport help.
The problem with the economy right now is a demand problem. Definitely not supply! LOL! If the goal is to get prices back up (which its the job of the fed to be sure inflation is a nice 2% per year forever in order to have a stable fiat currency), then we have to adjust either supply or demand. Burning houses, cars, tvs, etc is just not practical. In fact, china is building warehouses just to store the crap they make because Asian countries cannot have a declining employment rate. They will continue to make tvs and just store them in order to keep people working. If the people have no jobs, the government is overthrown. That's just the way the Asians do it.
So, since we can't decrease supply to keep prices high, we'll have to focus on increasing demand. How do we do that? The idea is that printing money and borrowing money can help get cash into the hands of people that are likely to spend it. Lowering interest rates makes the cost of money cheaper and should make buying things more attractive. Redistributing wealth from the savers to those that spend paycheck to paycheck can do it too. IF the definition of rich is to have a lot of money in the bank, giving more money to the rich will not generate demand for products and services. Instead, the rich will just throw more money on the pile they already have. Then, the bank loans the money out to people who wish to buy cars, houses, start businesses or whatever. But banks aren't loaning. So, its dead money. Well, the theory goes, if you take some of the money that the rich are saving... and the banks aren't loaning out... you can give it to people who really could use a hand right now and the same people will spend it before it burns a hole in their pocket. That will help lower the massive supply and help to get prices up before deflation takes a serious hold on the economy.
If deflation sets in (which its looking like its going to no matter what we do), we'll have a Japan style economy for the next couple generations. And that's not good for anyone anywhere in the world.... Rich and poor alike. Crime will increase and that makes the rich suffer too because whom do you think the poor are stealing from? The idea is that if the rich business owners pay a few extra bucks in taxes, they will see the money come back to them as increased demand for their products. So, its a net zero. No redistribution has really taken place in that case. The only way its bad is if all the rich man's tax dollars are spent by the poor at walmart, and then walmart sends the money off to China to buy more trash-can filler for the Americans to buy. Then its just a massive transfer of wealth to China.
Anyway, this, in a nutshell, is what I think Obama is trying to accomplish. What makes him such a dolt is he doesn't see that killing off the markets is not a temporary thing. Once people have lost a critical amount of money, they will swear off risky investments for the rest of their lives and are likely to teach their children the same. This could drag on for 2 generations before we see people who have not been burned by this depression. Only then will we get the kind of investment needed to really have 1980's and 1990's style "good times".
As far as the tax rate goes, I think Reagan lowered taxes to around Obama's level and Clinton raised them to Obama's level. Bush just lowered them to historic lows. Don't quote me on that since I haven't exactly researched it, but its what I've been hearing on tv. And the rich got a long just dandy in the 80's and 90's. As a matter of fact, there was a boom in the number of rich people until Bush took office at the top of the tech bubble. If the bubble was allowed to burst fully back then, I don't think we'd be having the troubles we are today. But, instead, nobody wants the economy to fall to piecs on their watch. So, Bush took us to war and Greenspan lowered interest rates and printed up some money. Bush also cut tax rates to get more people into the market. The whole idea was to stop the natural process of unwinding with articficial means. And it worked. Stocks rebounded with a fury and real estate climbed to insane levels. But now the politicians are out of ammo. Interest rates are zero and they've printed up record amounts of money. Bush should have just let it fall to pieces back then. It did anyway in the last year of his office and he still ended up looking like a tard and now we have to pay the price for his lack of *****. But, its really just human nature. Nobody wants to pay for anything until its absolutely necessary. So who can you really blame? Human nature is human nature.
Even if Obama's scheme works, its a temporary fix at best. What we really need is something fundamentally new in the world. Like automotive revolution or the computer revolution. Right now, I'm not aware of anything new and exciting to give everyone something to do for the next few decades. Look for China and India to become capitalist and America to become socialist. Farming and food production could be the next big thing. Billions of Asians will need to eat.
So, since we can't decrease supply to keep prices high, we'll have to focus on increasing demand. How do we do that? The idea is that printing money and borrowing money can help get cash into the hands of people that are likely to spend it. Lowering interest rates makes the cost of money cheaper and should make buying things more attractive. Redistributing wealth from the savers to those that spend paycheck to paycheck can do it too. IF the definition of rich is to have a lot of money in the bank, giving more money to the rich will not generate demand for products and services. Instead, the rich will just throw more money on the pile they already have. Then, the bank loans the money out to people who wish to buy cars, houses, start businesses or whatever. But banks aren't loaning. So, its dead money. Well, the theory goes, if you take some of the money that the rich are saving... and the banks aren't loaning out... you can give it to people who really could use a hand right now and the same people will spend it before it burns a hole in their pocket. That will help lower the massive supply and help to get prices up before deflation takes a serious hold on the economy.
If deflation sets in (which its looking like its going to no matter what we do), we'll have a Japan style economy for the next couple generations. And that's not good for anyone anywhere in the world.... Rich and poor alike. Crime will increase and that makes the rich suffer too because whom do you think the poor are stealing from? The idea is that if the rich business owners pay a few extra bucks in taxes, they will see the money come back to them as increased demand for their products. So, its a net zero. No redistribution has really taken place in that case. The only way its bad is if all the rich man's tax dollars are spent by the poor at walmart, and then walmart sends the money off to China to buy more trash-can filler for the Americans to buy. Then its just a massive transfer of wealth to China.
Anyway, this, in a nutshell, is what I think Obama is trying to accomplish. What makes him such a dolt is he doesn't see that killing off the markets is not a temporary thing. Once people have lost a critical amount of money, they will swear off risky investments for the rest of their lives and are likely to teach their children the same. This could drag on for 2 generations before we see people who have not been burned by this depression. Only then will we get the kind of investment needed to really have 1980's and 1990's style "good times".
As far as the tax rate goes, I think Reagan lowered taxes to around Obama's level and Clinton raised them to Obama's level. Bush just lowered them to historic lows. Don't quote me on that since I haven't exactly researched it, but its what I've been hearing on tv. And the rich got a long just dandy in the 80's and 90's. As a matter of fact, there was a boom in the number of rich people until Bush took office at the top of the tech bubble. If the bubble was allowed to burst fully back then, I don't think we'd be having the troubles we are today. But, instead, nobody wants the economy to fall to piecs on their watch. So, Bush took us to war and Greenspan lowered interest rates and printed up some money. Bush also cut tax rates to get more people into the market. The whole idea was to stop the natural process of unwinding with articficial means. And it worked. Stocks rebounded with a fury and real estate climbed to insane levels. But now the politicians are out of ammo. Interest rates are zero and they've printed up record amounts of money. Bush should have just let it fall to pieces back then. It did anyway in the last year of his office and he still ended up looking like a tard and now we have to pay the price for his lack of *****. But, its really just human nature. Nobody wants to pay for anything until its absolutely necessary. So who can you really blame? Human nature is human nature.
Even if Obama's scheme works, its a temporary fix at best. What we really need is something fundamentally new in the world. Like automotive revolution or the computer revolution. Right now, I'm not aware of anything new and exciting to give everyone something to do for the next few decades. Look for China and India to become capitalist and America to become socialist. Farming and food production could be the next big thing. Billions of Asians will need to eat.
#5617
03-03-2009, 06:34 PM
#5619
03-03-2009, 06:39 PM
#5620
03-03-2009, 06:40 PM
85 to 88 Suzuki LT230S Quadsport help.
Got this in the mail:
EXPLANATION OF THE STIMULUS BILL:
Shortly after class, an economics student approaches his economics professor and says, "I don't understand this stimulus bill. Can you explain it to me?"
The professor replied, "I don't have any time to explain it at my office, but if you come over to my house on Saturday and help me with my weekend project, I'll be glad to explain it to you." The student agreed.
At the agreed-upon time, the student showed up at the professor's house. The professor stated that the weekend project involved his backyard pool.
They both went out back to the pool, and the professor handed the student a bucket. Demonstrating with his own bucket, the professor said, "First, go over to the deep end, and fill your bucket with as much water as you can." The student did as he was instructed.
The professor then continued, "Follow me over to the shallow end, and then dump all the water from your bucket into it." The student was naturally confused, but did as he was told.
The professor then explained they were going to do this many more times, and began walking back to the deep end of the pool.
The confused student asked, "Excuse me, but why are we doing this?"
The professor matter-of-factly stated that he was trying to make the shallow end much deeper.
The student didn't think the economics professor was serious, but figured that he would find out the real story soon enough.
However, after the 6th trip between the shallow end and the deep end, the student began to become worried that his economics professor had gone mad. The student finally replied, "All we're doing is wasting valuable time and effort on unproductive pursuits.. Even worse, when this process is all over, everything will be at the same level it was before, so all you'll really have accomplished is the destruction of what could have been truly productive action!"
The professor put down his bucket and replied with a smile, "Congratulations!.....You now understand the stimulus bill."
EXPLANATION OF THE STIMULUS BILL:
Shortly after class, an economics student approaches his economics professor and says, "I don't understand this stimulus bill. Can you explain it to me?"
The professor replied, "I don't have any time to explain it at my office, but if you come over to my house on Saturday and help me with my weekend project, I'll be glad to explain it to you." The student agreed.
At the agreed-upon time, the student showed up at the professor's house. The professor stated that the weekend project involved his backyard pool.
They both went out back to the pool, and the professor handed the student a bucket. Demonstrating with his own bucket, the professor said, "First, go over to the deep end, and fill your bucket with as much water as you can." The student did as he was instructed.
The professor then continued, "Follow me over to the shallow end, and then dump all the water from your bucket into it." The student was naturally confused, but did as he was told.
The professor then explained they were going to do this many more times, and began walking back to the deep end of the pool.
The confused student asked, "Excuse me, but why are we doing this?"
The professor matter-of-factly stated that he was trying to make the shallow end much deeper.
The student didn't think the economics professor was serious, but figured that he would find out the real story soon enough.
However, after the 6th trip between the shallow end and the deep end, the student began to become worried that his economics professor had gone mad. The student finally replied, "All we're doing is wasting valuable time and effort on unproductive pursuits.. Even worse, when this process is all over, everything will be at the same level it was before, so all you'll really have accomplished is the destruction of what could have been truly productive action!"
The professor put down his bucket and replied with a smile, "Congratulations!.....You now understand the stimulus bill."