Old PSAR thread - please see the new one
Originally posted by: HappaRap
Where's this bunch of yahoo's at?
Originally posted by: RidinLCWA PSAR, we have work to do! I came across another forum with over 31,000 posts. We are sitting at just over 27,000. How can we allow them to have such a lead? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
I chose not to post the forum so as not to encourage participation!
Originally posted by: SkLLz
boohoo, boohoo, boohoo. quit crying
boohoo, boohoo, boohoo. quit crying
Originally posted by: HappaRap
Where's this bunch of yahoo's at?
Originally posted by: RidinLCWA PSAR, we have work to do! I came across another forum with over 31,000 posts. We are sitting at just over 27,000. How can we allow them to have such a lead? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Look at the date they started their thread, a year after ours started.......
Those guys are a posting frenzy, if you could look at that topics average posts per day, its amazing....
Even if we went back to our hayday, there is no way we could ever come close to them, and nobody would get on here anymore[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Those guys are posting machines over there at the SPINZONE
Originally posted by: Bigdaddy660R
AND FOR U YOUNG MAN...........Take the school yard, bathroom talk, BIG BULLY stuff AND AND and and [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: SkLLz
boohoo, boohoo, boohoo. quit crying
boohoo, boohoo, boohoo. quit crying
Originally posted by: SkLLz
HEY!!! dont make me rip into you too OLD MAN [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: Bigdaddy660R
AND FOR U YOUNG MAN...........Take the school yard, bathroom talk, BIG BULLY stuff AND AND and and [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: SkLLz
boohoo, boohoo, boohoo. quit crying
boohoo, boohoo, boohoo. quit crying
Originally posted by: Quad4Fun
HI Fred,
Well, I'd beg to differ on the fact that US vs Montana doesn't mean crap in this state. I believe it is a federal case. Case law does not have to be specific to a state. (genereally speaking anyway, and at least from what I've seen by watching Supreme Court cases).
How do you know the res cops in this state cannot write tickets to non-indians. Where is that in writing or law?
Where does it state they don't have the right to write tickets on Hwy 101.
I don't personally know if that is true or not, but doesn't make sense to me. So help educate me by showing me proof. The law, where in the treaty, anything in writing that states that they do not have the right to do it.
First, he didn't write you a ticket because he was on a DUI emphasis patrol, You weren't drinking, and you weren't a prik to him. So why waste time when he could get back out and look for the drunks that could kill or hurt somebody else?
What do you mean by "they don't do this stuff"?? They don't write tickets to non-natives???
ALL cops don't give everybody they pull over tickets.
Ask the State Patrol for their reason for not giving everybody a ticket they pull over. I can't remember there exact response, so I won't try to quote it, but basically it's officer discretion, and it's as much a informative/learning experience.. (their words, not mine)
So if it's officer discretion, they obviously have certain thing they will write people for and what they won't. It's pretty much common knowledge, that if you are a prik to a cop, he's gonna write ya. If you are nice, don't lie, sometimes that'll be enough for them to not write you. Or if you are Blonde, oh wait, never mind [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
NOW for Brett, he didn't write him the ticket because Mr. Sheldon was acting the way he was. He wrote him because he was on a emphasis patrol and EVERYBODY got a ticket. Do you actually really think Brett wrote him a ticket to try and make a stink???
I still don't understand, whether they are a tribe or not, why I should be able to go through THEIR land and break the law and not be held accountable. I can see where they obviously would have no juristiction outside of the reservation.
I don't claim to know all the Facts and official laws pertaining to this, I'm just stating my opinion on the circumstances of Mr.Sheldon getting a ticket, and the fact that from what I've looked at and read, I don't understand why I'm exempt from following the laws while traveling through any tribal reservation. As I said, I hope this will at least lead to a concrete answer so this issue can be resolved. (not sure if the tribal lawyer has the ***** to follow through though [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img])
But don't think my brother did all this because "he can" or "abusing his power". That is far from the truth, and I'm sure he would more that take exception to that. He is not even close to being like, he is more than fair with everybody.
Thanks Freddy [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
HI Fred,
Well, I'd beg to differ on the fact that US vs Montana doesn't mean crap in this state. I believe it is a federal case. Case law does not have to be specific to a state. (genereally speaking anyway, and at least from what I've seen by watching Supreme Court cases).
How do you know the res cops in this state cannot write tickets to non-indians. Where is that in writing or law?
Where does it state they don't have the right to write tickets on Hwy 101.
I don't personally know if that is true or not, but doesn't make sense to me. So help educate me by showing me proof. The law, where in the treaty, anything in writing that states that they do not have the right to do it.
I know several of the other cops on the res including Brett's boss and they don't do this stuff. And just because a citizen mouths off is no reason to treat him different. He didn't write me for 10 over during on New Years Eve, so why write a ticket that's gonna create a stink?
First, he didn't write you a ticket because he was on a DUI emphasis patrol, You weren't drinking, and you weren't a prik to him. So why waste time when he could get back out and look for the drunks that could kill or hurt somebody else?
What do you mean by "they don't do this stuff"?? They don't write tickets to non-natives???
ALL cops don't give everybody they pull over tickets.
Ask the State Patrol for their reason for not giving everybody a ticket they pull over. I can't remember there exact response, so I won't try to quote it, but basically it's officer discretion, and it's as much a informative/learning experience.. (their words, not mine)
So if it's officer discretion, they obviously have certain thing they will write people for and what they won't. It's pretty much common knowledge, that if you are a prik to a cop, he's gonna write ya. If you are nice, don't lie, sometimes that'll be enough for them to not write you. Or if you are Blonde, oh wait, never mind [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
NOW for Brett, he didn't write him the ticket because Mr. Sheldon was acting the way he was. He wrote him because he was on a emphasis patrol and EVERYBODY got a ticket. Do you actually really think Brett wrote him a ticket to try and make a stink???
I still don't understand, whether they are a tribe or not, why I should be able to go through THEIR land and break the law and not be held accountable. I can see where they obviously would have no juristiction outside of the reservation.
I don't claim to know all the Facts and official laws pertaining to this, I'm just stating my opinion on the circumstances of Mr.Sheldon getting a ticket, and the fact that from what I've looked at and read, I don't understand why I'm exempt from following the laws while traveling through any tribal reservation. As I said, I hope this will at least lead to a concrete answer so this issue can be resolved. (not sure if the tribal lawyer has the ***** to follow through though [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img])
But don't think my brother did all this because "he can" or "abusing his power". That is far from the truth, and I'm sure he would more that take exception to that. He is not even close to being like, he is more than fair with everybody.
Thanks Freddy [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Sean, It is an abuse of power for the Tribe (any tribe and there are several do it again) to tell their officers to ticket those they have no power over. This was also part of the agreement to allow the Skok tribe to have a police force again after they gave up that right many years ago. You are not exempt from following the law thru the res, but the tribal police are just that and have no more power of arrest (that's what a ticket is) over non-indians than you or I do. They can detain you and call a county or state officer, but not ticket non-indians anymore than I could stop you and give you a ticket. Oh yeah, the tribe can put parts of the res off limits to non-indians and enforce the trespass, again they are not allowed to ticket or detain non-tribe or non-Indian citizens though. I have no bone with your brother or any other officer in any res police force (a truely thankless job), it is just that the tribe seem to feel they can make, change or interpret laws, rules and agreements as they see fit. Not only not right, but illegal and probably Unconstitutional.
Originally posted by: Quad4Fun
Hey freddy,
As I'm sure nobody on here wants to read any of this, I'll leave it at that [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Hopefully the tribal attorney will have the Kahunas to see this out ( I doubt it though) and maybe this will go the distance and finally get settled, no matter who wins [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Hey freddy,
As I'm sure nobody on here wants to read any of this, I'll leave it at that [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Hopefully the tribal attorney will have the Kahunas to see this out ( I doubt it though) and maybe this will go the distance and finally get settled, no matter who wins [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Agreed! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] I PM'd you. I want a spanking too!!!!!!!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: RidinLCWA
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I chose not to post the forum so as not to encourage participation!
Originally posted by: HappaRap
Where's this bunch of yahoo's at?
Originally posted by: RidinLCWA PSAR, we have work to do! I came across another forum with over 31,000 posts. We are sitting at just over 27,000. How can we allow them to have such a lead? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
I chose not to post the forum so as not to encourage participation!
Bear gets the Detective Award for finding the forum. I thought that it was strange about the views vs posts numbers. Are the "views" limited to some time frame and the posts numbers are not???? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img] It is odd!


