14mins. Why would you care witch one is faster? I bet all you can do is go in a strait line huh? Man if I raced my honda against your big bad yami in the woods i would absolutly wreck you guy.

 

First off, YOU NEED TO RE-READ my post, I never said anything about trail riding the YFZ!!! I RACE!!!!!!!! I dont trail ride my YFZ AT ALL!!!!!!! Second, Pikes Peak is very FAR from being straight, its an up hill race of SEVERALLLLLLLLLL miles, speeds are in the 80's!!!! Also, I might mention, HONDA DOESNT EVEN ENTER A QUAD INTO THE EVENT, because they DO NOT HAVE A QUAD FAST ENOUGH TO COMPETE OR BUILDABLE ENOUGH TO COMPETE, the only honda's I have ever seen in the event was a cr500 powered quad!!! The Zilla's as well as the Honda and the DS ALL LOSE TO THE SHEE in that race!!!!!!!

 

dragracer789- lmao. I personally perfer trails to the drag strip. I just can't talk my DS buddies into riding past the finish line of the dragstrip. 4 of us spent a few weeks with heavy equiptment building a mx track on the property. no one uses it anymore lol I would wipe off the rust if i ever see you on the trail. But bring more than a honda cause i will wait for you at the corners and roost you on the straights[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

Anytime you want to have a go at my lackluster honda motor, please feel free 14. After all, you werent talking about suspension and trail riding in this thread, you directed it to the motor's and their performance.

You sure talk a lot of crap for a guy who hangs off crayfish's nuts. You dont even have a bike to compete with a lot of the members on here. Most people who talk negatively towards a model or brand such as you do have something to back it up, but you dont. You're just a typical magazine groupie.

But to back up 14mins....dragracer789...your 5.4 (basically 5.5) would most likely get dominated by 14min's thumper. Break into a 4.6 or so and you'd be more secure bragging about your ET

 

lackluster motors last longer

some people equate it to better return on investment

its hard to argue with them

 

Edited: Sun February 01, 2004 at 2:46 AM by DaBeechM

I don't think there is any hanging going on, kinda low

Robert Craycraft doesn't say much around here and for you even to include his name

 

Actually if you read my post a little closer you'd realize i didnt use his name in a derogatory way, or any way other then to prove a point i was trying to make. Trust me, its all legal and would hold up in a court of law. Try not to read between the lines mister moderator.

What i said is that Mark hangs from his builders every word, and clings to it with such force that he wont listen to reason.

I had a rather long conversation with scotty from engineering at Lonestar. Ill quote him "the 450r is the first flawless chassis that ive ever seen produced in a stock machine, there is nothing i would change on the chassis"..."the yamaha is also a very well built machine, although the chassis has weak points that will be changed"..."is there any reason to build a aftermarket 450r chassis?...not really"

Again, i dont really care about craycraft, it just bugs me that mark has nothing but negative things to say. Most likely insecurity.

 

First off, YOU NEED TO RE-READ my post, I never said anything about trail riding the YFZ!!! I RACE!!!!!!!! I dont trail ride my YFZ AT ALL!!!!!!! Second, Pikes Peak is very FAR from being straight, its an up hill race of SEVERALLLLLLLLLL miles, speeds are in the 80's!!!! Also, I might mention, HONDA DOESNT EVEN ENTER A QUAD INTO THE EVENT, because they DO NOT HAVE A QUAD FAST ENOUGH TO COMPETE OR BUILDABLE ENOUGH TO COMPETE, the only honda's I have ever seen in the event was a cr500 powered quad!!! The Zilla's as well as the Honda and the DS ALL LOSE TO THE SHEE in that race!!!!!!![/quote]

OK Ok, I read your post, It follows no logical thought pattern. So it through me off a bit. I think I see your point now. You are 6'2 and 183 and the YFZ is an amazing race machine. Even for someone your size. Ok, not disputing the YFZ is a good race machine. A little small for somebody your size, but obviously you like cramped spaces. So how did you plan to dispute the 450R is a better all around machine- with your banshee crap.... sure whatever..... OK, you have one race..... The banshee doesn't even come close to being the best all around machine... please.... that is funny......

So if I want to ride yamaha I need one bike for each type of terrain? I'll get right on that. That's seems to make a lot of sense.... Oh wait a minute- I have a honda and it will do well on all types of terrain..... One more time just for you, the topic is "how come honda builds lackluster motors? Obviously you haven't seen any information on the 450r, it is right up their with your beloved YFZ. .16 seconds behind in a 125 yrd drag on slightly uphill pavement. Yeah, that may be 2 quad lengths at that speed- but is hardly lackluster. Maybe you should pay more attention to the facts.

 

Mr. DaBeechMan,

"crayfish's nuts" Your grasping when you have to use this type of wording and using the same approach as you are accusing 14mins of doing.

If insecurity equates into being good, then prove your non insecurity by coming The Trailer Park in Aledo, Texas June 19,2004

 

Debeech- you would be welecomed. I do not swing from anyones nuts, mine are large enough. You had to modd the hell out of your quad to make it run, stock the hp was not very much. (less than a stock raptor, stock z-400, stock kawisaki v-force, stock bombardier ds 650) Sounds like you swing from someones nuts at lonestar. One persons opinion.


Honda motors generally produce less power than the other brands. Realibility is not a factor on a stock machine they all run a very long time. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]