OK Ok, I read your post, It follows no logical thought pattern. So it through me off a bit. I think I see your point now. You are 6'2 and 183 and the YFZ is an amazing race machine. Even for someone your size. Ok, not disputing the YFZ is a good race machine. A little small for somebody your size, but obviously you like cramped spaces. So how did you plan to dispute the 450R is a better all around machine- with your banshee crap.... sure whatever..... OK, you have one race..... The banshee doesn't even come close to being the best all around machine... please.... that is funny......

So if I want to ride yamaha I need one bike for each type of terrain? I'll get right on that. That's seems to make a lot of sense.... Oh wait a minute- I have a honda and it will do well on all types of terrain..... One more time just for you, the topic is "how come honda builds lackluster motors? Obviously you haven't seen any information on the 450r, it is right up their with your beloved YFZ. .16 seconds behind in a 125 yrd drag on slightly uphill pavement. Yeah, that may be 2 quad lengths at that speed- but is hardly lackluster. Maybe you should pay more attention to the facts.[/quote]

Is the Yamaha a true 450cc machine???????? Is the honda?????

 

you all argue the dumbest chit LOL

 

I agree, just standing up for my rides in the face of ignorance. Doesn't seem to help though..... I'll try this approach..

Ok I surrender- I am buying the 450R because it has a lackluster motor. I would not be able to handle the speed of a Yamaha product and was trying to hide under the honda veil of slowness and reliability. When I suck at riding the quad I can easily blame it on Honda.
My quad will be slow and uncomfortable because it is a Honda product. The dealer probably won't even warranty the quad when it falls apart the first day as it is sure to do.

If you can't beat em, join em. I would just like the rest of the Honda riders to come clean and admit they have chosen Honda for the same reasons. It's gonna be allright, the first step is admitting that you have a problem. You enjoy lackluster motors and poor performance with very little handling capabilities. Honda is a large company, but very weak and merely a flash in the pan. Practically a dot com.

Yammi fans, please help me see the error of my ways for I know not what I do. Forgive me for my past indiscretions and opinions.