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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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hes right you ride to have fun and anyways it doesn't matter what you want to do your not going to bring back 2stroke and be our hero and have us carry you around on a golden throne with a diamond studded crown. Their Not Coming Back. besides gas gas. So if you really want them like me switch to the bikes but also keep your current quad also like me.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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i just will never want to be slowed down to 4 stroke speed. 2 strokes are the way to go if you want speed..i still race my Lt to this day and i've yet to see a compareable 4 stroke even come close to keeping up with it..
 
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by: ItalianStallion
2004LEBANSHEE....First off...Don't get your panties in a bunch...You shee guys take it sooo hard...Yes 58 horses...It is a mild low compression build on pump gas. I didn't feel it necessary to build a 80 h.p. Rappy.Second...If you dump 2 grand into a shee, it is good for NOTHING but going in a straight line...Those are the guys who truck their bikes to the hill and truck em back to camp...oh what fun. I like to RIDE my quad. It dunes all day long, smokes plenty of BUILT shees, then takes me back home. I've had that build with over 620 hill passes and over 250 striaght line passes and aint even checked my plug yet. It runs ALL day on a tank of good ol 87 octane pump gas and all I have to do is push a button to make it start. Oh and I can go backwards too. I never have to let it COOL down, cause my radiator keeps it at the right temp all day...Anyways...My point on the shees is Yes they will be around for a LONG time...However the places to ride them will be limited more and more as time goes on....It all boils down to preferance. I have friends who have shees and my brother still has his Honda 250r quad...I ride them and I don't like them. It is just my opinion. They are noisy and stinky. I will say though that the good part about the shee is it's a YAMAHA. It was the bike that took them over the top when every other builder sucked out. It was a great quad for 20 some years and will be around for 20 more.
I never said you had to dump 2 grand in to a shee just saying what you would get if you did. There are other ways to go about it. You can get a eric gorr woods port for $200 add fatty pipes off e-bay $2-300 mill the head for $30, advance timing, and have a pump gas shee that will dyno 55-60Hp for about $500-600. That has great low end and killer mid range and be lighter then most 4 stokes with expeption of the 450s, but be much faster and have the reliablility of a stock bike.

 
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 01:11 AM
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im a 4-stroke rider but i love 2-strokes i think they r so much more fun. if i had the money i would buy a banshee in an instant
 
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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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i like the two strokes...lots of spunk...I think it'd be sweet if they brought them all back! like the tecate 4, quadzilla, and 250r and keep the banshee..Those quads have so much potential. But IMO if the laws dont get to harsh a few years will go by and the 4 strokes will rule..then b4 u know it some1 will show up on a two stroke and start killing ppl again the quad will be realized and i think the manufacturers could start it up again..Slim chance but it'd be sweet...i just hate ridin with all my friends cuz im like the only one with the 4 and i never know if thats my engine i smell...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
 
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Old May 3, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by: DesertViper
mywifesquad,
1985 was the first, and most powerful, year of the CR500. Honda mellowed it out each year after that because the '85 was such a beast that most people could not ride it. I owned an '85 CR500, and remember finishing every desert race feeling like a limp dish rag that had been drug behind the bike for the last fifty miles. And I remember winning my first desert race, on my very first race on a new '87 CR500 that I replaced the '85 CR500 with. The '87 was soooo much easier to ride that it didn't beat you to death at all. I had obviously gone faster on the '87, yet felt like I could have raced the entire hundred miles over again. Anyway, ... nice collection of bikes you have there. I wonder how the torque of your CR500 would compare to my KTM 525 MXC?

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I think the 500 would definitely give it a run for its money. It pulls very strong from idle now. The first time I rode my 500R I was launched 10' in the air up a small cliff that I used to struggle to just get over on my '82 480. I should have been scared but I was 25 then. Next weekend was the cowbell enduro. I had #2. I spent the entire day getting way too much air in all the wrong places. I was exhausted at the end and began my search for the right amount of weight. 16 ozs. didnt even slow it down a bit. Next was 24 ozs. Better but I wanted more. The problem was room available. Then I made some parts at work out of some blend of copper/bronze/tungsten. Very heavy for its size. There was some left over and I got a 1" slice of 4.5" dia. I still think it could use more that is for sure but it is real torquey now. I cant even imagine riding one stock, no way. These days the 500R has retired to a life of Pismo once a year. Has its flag and paddle on it right now. It needs a lower rod bearing soon but the rest is in great shape. It has been down to split cases 2 times and only has needed a couple trans bearings and rings. It is still even on the stock bore.

 
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Old May 3, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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this seemed to have turned into the classic two stroke verse 4 stroke debate. its like the parking area of any local riding area.

bombadier could easily bring back 2 stroke atv's so could polaris and so could yamaha. The market has just shifted the utility scene has mushroomed.

personally if I had to chose one it would be a 2 stroke , I enjoy working on engines and tuning. If I was practical It would be a 4 stroke as the engines seem to be more versatile.
 
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Old May 3, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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I think for the YZ's there replacing the 125 with the 250f, and the 250 with the 450f. And for the 80 class i have zero clue what there planning on doing with that. Probably a 100f lol. That sure shows that the higher 4-stroke mot could only keep up with a smaller 2 strok. sad huh? I have a CR250 along with a modded blaster. (just bought the cr yesturday) and for them, they will forever last.
 
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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by: daputz
The cost of a emissions legal 2 stoke quad would be way to much. People will pay for 2 stroke outboards and even sleds to a point.


" Real men ride 4 strokes...always have." ....................nah just those willing to settle for a power stroke every 2 crank revolutions, men that want it all go for a power stroke every crank revolution.
Agreed. People buy 4 strokes for one of 2 reasons. They either cant pick up a 2 stroke. Or they dont have the ***** to ride one.
 
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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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It funny you 4 strokers are like the little kids who supe up civics. Just get a muscle car and quit playing around[/quote]


Couldnt of said it better myself
 
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