Discussion about the new '07 Honda's
Sep 7, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by: reconranger
Honda has both the 250EX and the 300EX in the "intermediate" class. This is great, because the other manufacturers have neglected this market segment. Yamaha no longer has anything at all in this class, now that the Blaster is gone. All Suzuki has is the 250, which is inferior to the Honda.
Honda has both the 250EX and the 300EX in the "intermediate" class. This is great, because the other manufacturers have neglected this market segment. Yamaha no longer has anything at all in this class, now that the Blaster is gone. All Suzuki has is the 250, which is inferior to the Honda.
Sep 7, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by: reconranger
Rancher weight is up to a hefty 560 pounds. Everybody on the planet has a 600 pound big bore........what is the buyer's motivation to stay with an overweight 420cc, and not just go big bore?
No new dual-sport motorcycles. When are they going to learn that they would sell millions of these............
Rancher weight is up to a hefty 560 pounds. Everybody on the planet has a 600 pound big bore........what is the buyer's motivation to stay with an overweight 420cc, and not just go big bore?
No new dual-sport motorcycles. When are they going to learn that they would sell millions of these............
On the honda news site its listed as such
Dry Weight: 535 pounds (TRX350FE) / 524 pounds (TRX350FM)
Seems thats 10 lbs lighter then my 2001 rancher
Here is the link LINK
Sep 7, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Kodiak660
Where did you see the new rancher 420 is 560lbs?
On the honda news site its listed as such
Dry Weight: 535 pounds (TRX350FE) / 524 pounds (TRX350FM)
Seems thats 10 lbs lighter then my 2001 rancher
Here is the link LINK
Originally posted by: reconranger
Rancher weight is up to a hefty 560 pounds. Everybody on the planet has a 600 pound big bore........what is the buyer's motivation to stay with an overweight 420cc, and not just go big bore?
No new dual-sport motorcycles. When are they going to learn that they would sell millions of these............
Rancher weight is up to a hefty 560 pounds. Everybody on the planet has a 600 pound big bore........what is the buyer's motivation to stay with an overweight 420cc, and not just go big bore?
No new dual-sport motorcycles. When are they going to learn that they would sell millions of these............
On the honda news site its listed as such
Dry Weight: 535 pounds (TRX350FE) / 524 pounds (TRX350FM)
Seems thats 10 lbs lighter then my 2001 rancher
Here is the link LINK
You're looking at the 350. The link thingy is not working again, so copy and paste this link:
http://www.hondanews.com/CatID7435?m...30278&mime=asc
Sep 7, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by: reconranger
I need another 4wd. The new Rancher has lots of new features, but it is way overweight for my taste. So, one of my options is to just pick up a new 06 Rancher 350 dirt cheap, now that it's an obsolete model and the end of the model year.
My other option is to sell my current Rancher, and just get a Rhino. One Rhino replaces TWO utility quads for about the same amount of money. And, it has a roll cage so it's going to be safer if you roll it. I don't like Yamaha that well, and I hate belt drives, but................
I need another 4wd. The new Rancher has lots of new features, but it is way overweight for my taste. So, one of my options is to just pick up a new 06 Rancher 350 dirt cheap, now that it's an obsolete model and the end of the model year.
My other option is to sell my current Rancher, and just get a Rhino. One Rhino replaces TWO utility quads for about the same amount of money. And, it has a roll cage so it's going to be safer if you roll it. I don't like Yamaha that well, and I hate belt drives, but................
The 400 AT is 559 lbs
Sep 7, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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No, that's the 2wd version that is 525 pounds!
Here: http://www.hondanews.com/CatID7727?m...30278&mime=asc
560 for foot shifter/562 for ES! Lots of lard here, in my opinion.................
Here: http://www.hondanews.com/CatID7727?m...30278&mime=asc
560 for foot shifter/562 for ES! Lots of lard here, in my opinion.................
Sep 7, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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They changed the spec pages from lastnite....here is where I read it last nite
Specifications
Model: TRX420TE (with ESP) / TRX420TM
Engine Type: 420cc liquid-cooled fuel-injected OHV wet-sump longitudinally mounted single-cylinder four-stroke
Bore and Stroke: 86.5mm x 71.5mm
Induction: Keihin 34mm throttle-body fuel-injection system
Ignition: Full transistor with electronic advance
Starter: Electric with optional auxiliary recoil
Clutch: Automatic
Transmission TRX420TE: ESP five-speed with Reverse
TRX420TM: Five-speed with Reverse
Driveline: Direct rear driveshaft
Suspension Front: Independent double-wishbone; 6.3 inches travel
Rear: Swingarm with single shock; 6.3 inches travel
Brakes Front: Dual hydraulic disc
Rear: Sealed mechanical drum
Tires Front: 24x8-12
Rear: 24x10-11
Length: 80.9 inches
Width: 46.1 inches
Height: 45.2 inches
Seat Height: 32.4 inches
Ground Clearance: 6.5 inches
Wheelbase: 49.4 inches
Turning Radius: 8.9 feet
Dry Weight TRX420TE: 525 pounds
TRX420TM: 522 pounds
Fuel Capacity: 3.7 gallons
Colors: Red, Olive, Blue
Recommended for riders 16 years of age and older.
Specifications
Model: TRX420TE (with ESP) / TRX420TM
Engine Type: 420cc liquid-cooled fuel-injected OHV wet-sump longitudinally mounted single-cylinder four-stroke
Bore and Stroke: 86.5mm x 71.5mm
Induction: Keihin 34mm throttle-body fuel-injection system
Ignition: Full transistor with electronic advance
Starter: Electric with optional auxiliary recoil
Clutch: Automatic
Transmission TRX420TE: ESP five-speed with Reverse
TRX420TM: Five-speed with Reverse
Driveline: Direct rear driveshaft
Suspension Front: Independent double-wishbone; 6.3 inches travel
Rear: Swingarm with single shock; 6.3 inches travel
Brakes Front: Dual hydraulic disc
Rear: Sealed mechanical drum
Tires Front: 24x8-12
Rear: 24x10-11
Length: 80.9 inches
Width: 46.1 inches
Height: 45.2 inches
Seat Height: 32.4 inches
Ground Clearance: 6.5 inches
Wheelbase: 49.4 inches
Turning Radius: 8.9 feet
Dry Weight TRX420TE: 525 pounds
TRX420TM: 522 pounds
Fuel Capacity: 3.7 gallons
Colors: Red, Olive, Blue
Recommended for riders 16 years of age and older.
Sep 7, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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So far, I am disapointed, unless this engine turns out to absolutely be some kind of fire breathing dragon...............
In a sense, the Rancher has been bumped into a different class.
In a sense, the Rancher has been bumped into a different class.
Sep 7, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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there seems to be some confusion as to which rancher models are new....
the '07 Rancher AT is the same as last year.
the '06 Rancher 350's are the ones that got upgraded- to 420cc, liquid cooled, trax-lok front disc brakes, new plastic (I like the camo) for 2007. Kinda wierd, the manual and ES shift ranchers now have a larger engine than the AT. Maybe look for a Rancher AT with the 420 engine next year??
either way, i'm glad for the most part that i got my 350 when i did. The 420 is heavier, and I dont like buying new engines and designs the first year out, there are bugs that warranty must figure out first. I would have liked to get the larger engine in mine, but I'll let the new models work their bugs out and when i get some money ahead i might trade in...
the '07 Rancher AT is the same as last year.
the '06 Rancher 350's are the ones that got upgraded- to 420cc, liquid cooled, trax-lok front disc brakes, new plastic (I like the camo) for 2007. Kinda wierd, the manual and ES shift ranchers now have a larger engine than the AT. Maybe look for a Rancher AT with the 420 engine next year??
either way, i'm glad for the most part that i got my 350 when i did. The 420 is heavier, and I dont like buying new engines and designs the first year out, there are bugs that warranty must figure out first. I would have liked to get the larger engine in mine, but I'll let the new models work their bugs out and when i get some money ahead i might trade in...
Sep 7, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by: HR
so no IRS other than then Rincon? bad move on hondas part i think. yamaha went with it on the big bear and kodiak line witch is now grizzly so they do have a manual shift IRS 400 cc quad. maybe worth looking into..
i sure wish honda would have put IRS on something other than the rincon. ... bummer.....
so no IRS other than then Rincon? bad move on hondas part i think. yamaha went with it on the big bear and kodiak line witch is now grizzly so they do have a manual shift IRS 400 cc quad. maybe worth looking into..
i sure wish honda would have put IRS on something other than the rincon. ... bummer.....
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outdoor/.../features.aspx
Sep 7, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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seems like honda missed the target again. glad to see some imporvements as always but seemes like it is falling a little short of what the people in the market expect. they just seem a little gunshy nowadays... what happned to their light 4x4 they were testing? i guess its in the same place as the 650EX we have been wanting to see....
that new 420 weighs too much. if it was me, and it being almost 600lbs, id def go get a can am and get a twin 500-800cc to handle the weight better. or find a left over 350 or somtin. i dont like heavy bikes but as pointed out if you going to get near the 600 mark then go big bore.
and the 300EX lives! surpising to me as well. i know it needed updating but it looks too much like their other bikes. i didnt have a problem with the previous look of it- it was kinda unique (as did the older 400ex styling); but it needed the reverse revision - that had to be the dumbest reverse on the planet. ever. id rather get off and push. took them 20yrs to fix it! the old 1987-88 250x started out having that reverse autrosity and they carried it over to the 300 in 1993...maybe next they will give it a true 300cc engine or why not a 320 for a little bit more power? perhaps efi down the road and better suspension. but then again, the efi and suspension will add to the cost. and for trails - it is the best trail bike you can buy.
that new 420 weighs too much. if it was me, and it being almost 600lbs, id def go get a can am and get a twin 500-800cc to handle the weight better. or find a left over 350 or somtin. i dont like heavy bikes but as pointed out if you going to get near the 600 mark then go big bore.
and the 300EX lives! surpising to me as well. i know it needed updating but it looks too much like their other bikes. i didnt have a problem with the previous look of it- it was kinda unique (as did the older 400ex styling); but it needed the reverse revision - that had to be the dumbest reverse on the planet. ever. id rather get off and push. took them 20yrs to fix it! the old 1987-88 250x started out having that reverse autrosity and they carried it over to the 300 in 1993...maybe next they will give it a true 300cc engine or why not a 320 for a little bit more power? perhaps efi down the road and better suspension. but then again, the efi and suspension will add to the cost. and for trails - it is the best trail bike you can buy.