What is really going on in Michigan
Jun 22, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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What is really going on in Michigan
Originally posted by: blackballed
99.9% of the trails are multi use</STRONG>.
99.9% of the trails are multi use</STRONG>.
That "me-only" single track is what you're after.....and more importantly that this mileage be forever shut out from the rest of this community who seeks to enjoy the same area or experience.[/quote]
Could you possibly rephrase that?
If it fits....It can use it.
Jun 22, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by: mywifesquad
Why should any dirt bike rider work with a group that wants 100% of the trails to be multi use/very wide for 2 wheels?
Originally posted by: stunna65305From my perspective the quad group does'nt really want them to completely step aside, they just want them to stop acting so arrogant in defending something that is theirs in the first place. If the bike guys can just start working with the quad guys more, situations like this would become avoidable.
How more obvious do you have to be?
Jun 22, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by: mywifesquad
And you actually expect anyone on 2 wheels to work with you? And you say the 2 wheel crowd is arrogant?
Originally posted by: stunna65305Simple answer, YES.
Bottom line?
The cyclists realize that in the future, these kids aren't going to go for this "we hate the quadders" crap these older and lock-step members of this cycling community have been promoting for decades....and frankly, their days are (and should) be numbered for the outright division they have brought to this community through their outright arrogance.
Jun 22, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by: blackballed
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We aren't asking the cyclists to work with us.....we're <u>demanding</u>
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We aren't asking the cyclists to work with us.....we're <u>demanding</u>
Jun 22, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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What is really going on in Michigan
There are 49 other states in the Union. But only one that seems to have such a division between what should be fellow riders.
I honestly think the problems in Michigan don't exist on any wheels at all. The problems seem to walk upright.
I honestly think the problems in Michigan don't exist on any wheels at all. The problems seem to walk upright.
Jun 22, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by: mywifesquad
Thanks for atleast being honest BB. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: blackballed[We aren't asking the cyclists to work with us.....we're <u>demanding</u>
What kills you guys is the fact that not a one of you can dispute a single thing I've brought forward here...short of allowing guys like Muddy to openly attack me in a manner that would not be allowed on any other thread in this forum.
Can you bring up a single instance where any of us here on this thread (or elsewhere) have stooped to his level....and gotten away with it?
Or do the forum rules only apply to those defending the very subject matter this forum was founded around....or the concept of community cooperation as it relates to no one group within same striking out on its own to do nothing but land-grab?
Jun 22, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by: blackballed
I'm plenty honest 100% of the time and you know it.
What kills you guys is the fact that not a one of you can dispute a single thing I've brought forward here...short of allowing guys like Muddy to openly attack me in a manner that would not be allowed on any other thread in this forum.
Can you bring up a single instance where any of us here on this thread (or elsewhere) have stooped to his level....and gotten away with it?
Or do the forum rules only apply to those defending the very subject matter this forum was founded around....or the concept of community cooperation as it relates to no one group within same striking out on its own to do nothing but land-grab?
I'm plenty honest 100% of the time and you know it.
What kills you guys is the fact that not a one of you can dispute a single thing I've brought forward here...short of allowing guys like Muddy to openly attack me in a manner that would not be allowed on any other thread in this forum.
Can you bring up a single instance where any of us here on this thread (or elsewhere) have stooped to his level....and gotten away with it?
Or do the forum rules only apply to those defending the very subject matter this forum was founded around....or the concept of community cooperation as it relates to no one group within same striking out on its own to do nothing but land-grab?
There are plenty of examples of you being disputed in this thread.
Muddy does seem to not like you very much. And in most cases the whole thread would be tossed. This one has been edited a bunch of times, and Ive let it continue also.
I dont think thats the case.
Jun 22, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
The cyclist can access ALL the 3000 miles of trails we have here in Michigan, ATVers can only access about 60% of these miles, yet there are approx 3-4 times more ATVers in this State than there are cyclists. I dont argue that a multi-use trail system is the best system for the majority of ORV users, I just BLAST BBs method of operation.
The cyclist can access ALL the 3000 miles of trails we have here in Michigan, ATVers can only access about 60% of these miles, yet there are approx 3-4 times more ATVers in this State than there are cyclists. I dont argue that a multi-use trail system is the best system for the majority of ORV users, I just BLAST BBs method of operation.
WITHOUT a doubt THAT is the very best wording I have ever read!
Thanks for putting it BACK in perseptive Bill!
Jun 22, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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QUOTE by MWQ*
And is there actually a LAW that says people go slow on the trails in Michigan?
End of quote
There is law in Michigan that states that all ORV operators are prohibuted to operate at a rate of speed greater than which is reasonable and proper for exsisting conditions and in a careless manner without due regard for exsisting conditions.
Of course, your interpetation of this may VARY from rider/officer?
And is there actually a LAW that says people go slow on the trails in Michigan?
End of quote
There is law in Michigan that states that all ORV operators are prohibuted to operate at a rate of speed greater than which is reasonable and proper for exsisting conditions and in a careless manner without due regard for exsisting conditions.
Of course, your interpetation of this may VARY from rider/officer?
Jun 22, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by: MUDDY4LIFE
There is law in Michigan that states that all ORV operators are prohibuted to operate at a rate of speed greater than which is reasonable and proper for exsisting conditions and in a careless manner without due regard for exsisting conditions.
Of course, your interpetation of this may VARY from rider/officer?
There is law in Michigan that states that all ORV operators are prohibuted to operate at a rate of speed greater than which is reasonable and proper for exsisting conditions and in a careless manner without due regard for exsisting conditions.
Of course, your interpetation of this may VARY from rider/officer?
Of course. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]