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Old 11-05-2012, 05:04 PM
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it didnt loose the oil while sitting, it lost it while riding. i only mentioned the over night cause that would have given enough time for all the oil to run back down to where you could see it in the sight glass. i dont know how else it could have got out, i started it up and ran it for 20-30 minutes and watched for leaks... nothin. Im sure it pissed my neighbors off since the muffler wasnt on lol


i also ride a 750-4, mine is a 77 supersport model though
 
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:38 PM
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Mine was the 76 bicentennial.

Well, I just looked at a bunch of threads. Everyone is clueless except for random guesses like mine... piston blowby. You don't have external oil tank for a line to get plugged. You don't have an oil line near the breather. So the only way oil could be coming out is if there is blowby from combustion. These engines will run very well with hardly any compression, so just because it runs good wouldn't be an indication. Is it smoking? I would think if the rings are bad, then it would be smoking. You think it could be possible to have a crack in the piston? That might let combustion pressure thru without much smoking... maybe.

How much compression do you have? I know I can stand on my kicker and it takes a few seconds before it falls. How long does it take yours to fall if you stand on it? Does it seem like its sealing up?

On the 750 they say the oil return line could be plugged and its flooding the crankcase with oil... which has no choice but to be forced out the breather. The 750 has that big tank on the side. Thick oil would plug the line faster, so that backs up that theory you have about the oil being too thick, but wouldn't apply to the 230.
 
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:23 AM
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Hi, Sorry to change the topic... Can yall tell me if the front suspension of the LT230GE, LT230S, and LT250 share any components?
 
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bodock
Hi, Sorry to change the topic... Can yall tell me if the front suspension of the LT230GE, LT230S, and LT250 share any components?
i know a 230e front shocks will bolt on a 230s. the rear shock though has a different size hole and the bushing is a little different
 
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:45 AM
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Okay, thanks! The reason I ask is I was recently given an 85 LT230GE, it's the utility version.

It had been sitting for 10 years under my friend's back deck.

I flushed the tank, cleaned the carb, and changed the oil.

It runs like a scalded dog, but I was wanting to see if there was a way to add a little more travel to the front suspension.

I work in a sheet metal shop so fabrication shouldnt be a problem.

I was thinking of grabbing some 250 shocks off of ebay fro cheap and fabbing up new mounts. But I may look into replacing the A-arms too to give it more travel.

I know most people dont mess with the utility versions but it was free and I like to tinker.
 
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:31 PM
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it smokes a bit at first but then goes away. I hadnt really considered rings since they have maybe 15 hours on them since they were replaced
 
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 86zuk
it smokes a bit at first but then goes away. I hadnt really considered rings since they have maybe 15 hours on them since they were replaced
So how much compression does it have?
 
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bodock
Okay, thanks! The reason I ask is I was recently given an 85 LT230GE, it's the utility version.

It had been sitting for 10 years under my friend's back deck.

I flushed the tank, cleaned the carb, and changed the oil.

It runs like a scalded dog, but I was wanting to see if there was a way to add a little more travel to the front suspension.

I work in a sheet metal shop so fabrication shouldnt be a problem.

I was thinking of grabbing some 250 shocks off of ebay fro cheap and fabbing up new mounts. But I may look into replacing the A-arms too to give it more travel.

I know most people dont mess with the utility versions but it was free and I like to tinker.
Here's what I would do...

Find some 250s shocks on ebay. Not too many stock-quad shocks are going to be better than those.

Then cut then ends off the arms and add some electrical conduit tube. Or whatever you have. I used wrist pins from a 460 ford engine before. I wouldn't go over 4 inches though. 5 inches seems wide to me and just leaves the wheel hanging out to clip a tree.

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I had a problem for a while the tie rods would keep breaking where I welded them. So I just welded them over and over again until I built up a lot of metal. So far they hold up to the worst of trails. Maybe a better solution is to put a sleeve over the joint. I didn't have anything that would fit tight enough though.

Next you have to figure out the geometry for the shock mounts. Its really up to your preference. I drilled several top mount holes until I found the hole I liked. You can chop the rest of the holes off later.

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These +5 arms put me at 49 inches

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Now after you're so wide, you'll have to make the quad longer so it will track properly. Square shaped quads don't like to drive straight.

I added a +4 swingarm with beefy tube machined from an axle shaft of a ford 9inch.

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That should keep you busy for a while LOL
 
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:13 AM
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Man that's some nice work. Definitely want to try some of those ideas.

Although I cant do the rear end modification because mine is a GE.

I guess putting in a different drive shaft or lengthening it may be possible.
 
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRandy
So how much compression does it have?
well i dont have the tools to check, but i do have a kick starter and about 180 lbs of body weight. When i stand on the starter sometimes i can stand on it all the way up for about a second or two before it drops me, and sometimes it will fall without much force through the first stroke until its about halfway down, then it will hold me again. I assume thats just the difference between the intake/power strokes and the compression/exhaust strokes of the engine, and that it is a good sign

correct me if i'm wrong, or thats bad
 


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