Suzuki Discussions about Suzuki ATVs.

ltz50 quad no power

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:39 AM
  #161  
AIRMOBILE101's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
Default ltz50 quad no power

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DSengineer

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: AIRMOBILE101

but keep in mind that I have a KFX50. Those rollers might fit. Im not sure about a LTZ50.</end quote></div>



These bikes are identical mechanically from what I can tell.</end quote></div>

I dont know if the bikes are similar or not , but I know you can get roller weights for around 7.00-10.00 dollars.
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:04 PM
  #162  
DSengineer's Avatar
Pro Rider
Has been here a long time!
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,602
Likes: 1
Default ltz50 quad no power

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: tlronny

LT80 may argue with you there - I cant tell of any balance issues when I ride it ?</end quote></div>

I dont know if your going to feel it, but simple geometry 101 will tell you running anything other than 3 or 6 rollers is not going to be balanced.
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:18 PM
  #163  
DSengineer's Avatar
Pro Rider
Has been here a long time!
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,602
Likes: 1
Default ltz50 quad no power

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: KINGQUAD450

I doesn't matter how many rollers you run. You will not get anymore low end power, or torque out of it. With e sprocket changed it will climb hills and even spin the wheels a little and still have to use the throttle screw to turn it down</end quote></div>

From Scootertronics website: Heavier roller weights = slower take off speed, more acceleration, = higher maximum speed. Lighter roller weights =faster take off speed, less acceleration = lower achievable speed.
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:52 PM
  #164  
KINGQUAD450's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
Default ltz50 quad no power

basiclly what you are doing is slipping the belt with lighter rollers letting the motor rev more before tring to move.
You are not going to change the power of the motor. The motor is what it is a dog.
I tried it, it does seem to make it take off better but still has no power when it sees a grade.
Even the sprockets didn't change the power of the motor it just changed the power needed to make it move.
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 04:10 PM
  #165  
AIRMOBILE101's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
Default ltz50 quad no power

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DSengineer

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: KINGQUAD450



I doesn't matter how many rollers you run. You will not get anymore low end power, or torque out of it. With e sprocket changed it will climb hills and even spin the wheels a little and still have to use the throttle screw to turn it down</end quote></div>



From Scootertronics website: Heavier roller weights = slower take off speed, more acceleration, = higher maximum speed. Lighter roller weights =faster take off speed, less acceleration = lower achievable speed.</end quote></div>

Trust me!!!! I got the idea all too well, spent last night changing roller weights left and right. Just about have the sweet spot. Just need to mark off 100-150ft of street to get some times. People , you can run 3 or the 6. Im not to sure about the odd number of rollers though. If you run a total of 3 weights(stock). It will hit the wall(high rev and no where to go). Your target range should be between 28-40 grams depending on what your clutch setup is. My sons bike right this moment has 3 MRP 6grams and 3 PRODIGY 8 gram weights in it. Total weight is 42grams. I need the heavier weight because I have the bike geared low(17T/28T sprockets).Its just a matter of preference. The above statement by DSENGINEER is correct!!Heavier roller weights = slower take off speed, more acceleration, = higher maximum speed. Lighter roller weights =faster take off speed, less acceleration = lower achievable speed.</end quote></div>
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 04:21 PM
  #166  
AIRMOBILE101's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
Default ltz50 quad no power

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: KINGQUAD450

basiclly what you are doing is slipping the belt with lighter rollers letting the motor rev more before tring to move.

You are not going to change the power of the motor. The motor is what it is a dog.

I tried it, it does seem to make it take off better but still has no power when it sees a grade.

Even the sprockets didn't change the power of the motor it just changed the power needed to make it move.</end quote></div>

True!!!! The sprocket change gears the bike higher top end or lower end with fast aacceleration utilizing the current power that was there. Bigger rear wheels also helps the top end.
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:02 PM
  #167  
LT80's Avatar
Extreme Pro Rider
LT80 Expert
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 8,340
Likes: 33
Default ltz50 quad no power

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DSengineer

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: tlronny



LT80 may argue with you there - I cant tell of any balance issues when I ride it ?</end quote></div>



I dont know if your going to feel it, but simple geometry 101 will tell you running anything other than 3 or 6 rollers is not going to be balanced.</end quote></div>

14 years of CVT expierience tell me it's no big deal. I know of race machines with different weight rollers in. Some with just the plastic and no weight.
Never a balance problem.
If you have to read the scootertronics to know,why you questioning me?! LOL [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:01 PM
  #168  
AIRMOBILE101's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
Default ltz50 quad no power

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: LT80

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DSengineer



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: tlronny







LT80 may argue with you there - I cant tell of any balance issues when I ride it ?</end quote></div>







I dont know if your going to feel it, but simple geometry 101 will tell you running anything other than 3 or 6 rollers is not going to be balanced.</end quote></div>



14 years of CVT expierience tell me it's no big deal. I know of race machines with different weight rollers in. Some with just the plastic and no weight.

Never a balance problem.

If you have to read the scootertronics to know,why you questioning me?! LOL [IMG][/IMG]</end quote></div>

Im sure no one is questioning you. Everyone just wants to figure out how to make the little quad go faster. Its a new ball field for most of us.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:11 PM
  #169  
AIRMOBILE101's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
Default ltz50 quad no power

People, we got a pretty good thread going!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:24 PM
  #170  
LT80's Avatar
Extreme Pro Rider
LT80 Expert
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 8,340
Likes: 33
Default ltz50 quad no power

FYI: that was a joke. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:20 PM.